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  • I didn't think Scott would joke about something so serious, but I needed to check anyway. Here's anecdotal "evidence" that Onguards key combinations need revisitiong, and maybe there are as few as only 10 different versions. Until I hear differently from the manufacturer, I know I can't recommend them

    Taken from: http://velospace.org/forums/discussion/325/kryptonite-mini-u-vs-onguard-bulldog-mini-u/

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    ] CommentTimeMay 14th 2009

                                                                          I do not trust onguard locks -- any of them. they do not produce a wide number of key/lock combinations. I heard a number of 1 out of 10 keys will work in their locks. And my onguard key happened to work in a friend's friend's u-lock one night when we were drinking and talking bikes. We had a "lets test this" moment and it worked. 
    

    I am supporter of kryptonite now.

    I also recommend the fahgettiboudit mini u-lock. If they're too expensive at your shop, ebay seller tough-locks @ http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/tough-locks has them for $65 bucks + free shipping. And if you're worried about the weight, you shouldnt carry them in your bag -- just put the lock into your belt or buy one of those fabric horse holsters for 15 bucks. you wont wont notice the weight once you're riding if it's not on your back. I'll put up with these minor issues in exchange for the strength of the lock vs. the evo mini - a fine lock, but not quite as fine as the fahgettiboutdit mini.

    Scary, that a lock company, that makes some of the best locks ever, has so few key combinations.
    Defeats the purpose of such a strong lock as their Brute Mini. Weird.

    EDIT: ONGUARD utilise something called the M-Cylinder on their Brute locks. It says that there are 100,000 combinations, but of course if less are used, then less templates need be made for the key manufacture, and that reduces costs, dramatically. With 100,000 possible combinations, unless the key manufacture is completely computerised, then maybe it is possible for a manufacturer to make only a few variations. It makes sense. I'll report back if I get to speak to anyone at Onguard. It would be a shame to go from top 3, to bottom 3 in an instant.

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