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  • Can you please stop arguing about VP andjust aprecieate a hot woman who is really good at something.

    We're not really arguing about VP any more. The conversation's moved on. Thread drift, and all that.

    gender politics are complictaed, but i think we should all really just get over it. regardless of gender we are all just people, and i think there are many things that make us individual outside of our physicality. we should all do what we want and feel makes us happy,

    This is pretty much my approach too, but I really don't think it's as simple as just getting on with it. I DO try to live my life exactly as I want to, without worrying about my gender, but I find myself constantly fighting against society's (and my own) expectations, prescriptions and assumptions. Plus, we are brought up as a particular gender from the moment we're born (typical first words about us: 'it's a boy!', 'it's a girl!') and, rightly or wrongly, it becomes a central part of our identity. I completely agree that we should 'just get over it', but I think the struggle to do so needs to be made more visible.

    Incidentally, if anyone's interested, there's a very good Pro-Feminist Men's Group in London, that I think is on the look-out for more members...

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