Simple, Bombproof and Fixed

To cut a long story short, im selling my 2 mountainbikes, which were perfect when i lived in the pennines, for a fixed wheel bike, now i live in the city. I have a budget of £800, it has to be bombproof, simple and fixed. Ive narrowed my choices down to the Volume Creedence, Subrosa Malum fixed or the Koxx Intersection, your opinions would be helpfull.

i love my volume
solid frame
but i dont know about the components

Totally not helpful but where in the pennines?

I hear Surly Steamrollers are really solid. I'm going to be buying one within the next couple of weeks and have done a fair bit of research and they seem to tick all the boxes for me.

Out of those three I would go for the Volume Cutter, very very strong and well built frame, the Charge Plug is also an excellent alternative that is tough and pretty bombproof, (superTed has had several that he rode around for ages), and only broke one doing silly big stuff that most people wouldn't attempt on fixed, he lost the other one.

Either one of those two frames will stand up to a lot of abuse, and are excellent for tricks etc.
But if you're just looking for a tough frame for road use then the steamroller is a really good solid alternative that will last a long time :)

Of your 3, Subrosa Malum. It's designed to be trick-proof, looks sweet and only needs powergrips to make it perfect.
However, I saw somewhere that the Koxx Intersection has dropped in price to like €350? If so, that's amazing value.

£800 is a lot of money, I would consider buying something complete, totally blinging and secondhand off ebay or here. Or just buy a nice frameset and sling some decent parts on it. Depends how bombproof you want it to be? 36 hole wheels, alu or cromo cranks, tricks / polo or flat out. other framesets to throw into the mix are FBM's, BJ's, Bricklanes Own brand frames.

Go for CrazyJamesProof, not bombproof. You'll be safer that way.

In Saddleworth

I know its all the rage to find a frame in a skip and do it up, but i wouldnt ride any other bike i found in a skip so why a fixed?£800 is not a lot to spend on a bike which is going to be my sole form of transport for years to come, £1500 on a brooklyn machine works gagsta full build is though. The koxx retails at around £750. (www.k-124.co.uk click the xc link, complete bikes.)

£800 is a lot of money, I would consider buying something complete, totally blinging and secondhand off ebay or here. Or just buy a nice frameset and sling some decent parts on it. Depends how bombproof you want it to be? 36 hole wheels, alu or cromo cranks, tricks / polo or flat out. other framesets to throw into the mix are FBM's, BJ's, Bricklanes Own brand frames.

Careful, none of those are particularly strong frame sets, at least not on the same level as volume cutters and charge plugs anyway.
If I had £800 I'd spend out on strong basic components, cheap out on the unimportant stuff like saddles cranks and pedals, and then upgrade those as and when they break.
Thats pretty much what I did, and I put a lot of stress on my bike, I would go with:

A cutter or plug frame

MTB forks, with a low axle to crown height (around 410-430mm works pretty well on 700c wheels)
A bmx stem and some strong as fuck riser bars such as gusset open prisons (which have 22.2mm diameter tubing for bmx stems) will give you a bomb proof front end

Goldtec/Phil Wood hubs on some touring rims (Rigida and Mavic are the best way to go here) either 36H or 48H depending on how mental you're planning on going with your bike

A minimum of 28-32c tyres (your rim choice will also dictate minimum tyre width to a degree) if you want good protection for your wheels, I find 32c to be a good compromise between speed/shock absorption, sure its not as fast as skiny tyres, but I can throw my bike around without killing my wrists and its still reasonably fast albeit requiring a little more effort to get up to speed!

All this will give you a really good solid base from which to build from, which will be strong enough for tricks/polo/whatever you want to throw at it, and as long as you get yourself a decent bottom bracket you replace your cranks later as and when you need to, probably worth starting off with something cheap such as Sugino Messengers if you're on a budget. As my bike is becoming more and more tricks specific i'm probably going to go up in tyre size at the front to a 40c at least, but all these little adjustments can be made later on down the line once you decide what you will be doing with your bike the majority of the time, hope that all helps a bit.

mike c has a cotic road rat
good looking bikes nice bits
on sale currently
check the thread he posted
may not be your thing but worth a look

yeah i had a look at those with the flat bar set up, do you know what the framew material is? As it doesnt state on the cotic website

i just bumped the thread so it may be shown
check out thread should be on first page

what bottom bracket sizing would it ned to look out for to fit 2-3 pce cranks on a frame such as the cutter or the cotic roadrat?

http://www.swinnertoncycles.co.uk/Cotic-Road-Rat-Drop-Bar-Version-Roadratdrop.aspx

looks like steel / cro-moly

Careful, none of those are particularly strong frame sets, at least not on the same level as volume cutters and charge plugs anyway.
If I had £800 I'd spend out on strong basic components, cheap out on the unimportant stuff like saddles cranks and pedals, and then upgrade those as and when they break.
Thats pretty much what I did, and I put a lot of stress on my bike, I would go with:
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cutter is the same level as the others. plug would be the most heavy duty, up there with surly

thats crackin thanks

What like the same strength level as a bob Jackson?! Haha gimme a break please, there is no way in hell that BLB own brand frames and/or BJ frames are as strong as a Volume Cutter, Plug is a brilliant frame, probably stronger than a Steamroller in my opinion, I don't think you can go wrong with a cutter or Plug for tricks, both are very strong frames which have been ridden by some pretty hardcore riders.
I'm not sure on the steamroller for heavy trick use, as I don't know anyone thats abused it as much as people have abused cutters/plugs in that respect, but I know they have a reputation for being tough, and the build quality seems excellent, but none of those other frames I mentioned are anywhere near as strong as plug/cutter/steamroller frames IMO.

cutter is just a cheap mass produced frame like the rest. check out shins, em's or ma3k's abused surly's.

Only thing with the cutter version 2 is that there's not a lot of room for larger tyres at the rear, i'm running 28c Shwalbe Marathon Plus and the axles have to be as far back in the drop outs as possible.... Just my 2cents...

cutter is just a cheap mass produced frame like the rest. check out shins, em's or ma3k's abused surly's.

Yes it is, but so are many bmx frames, that doesn't make it or them any less strong. Shins em and Ma3k's bikes get a lot of abuse no doubt, as far as i'm aware though they don't go bombing stair sets all the time/ hitting wall rides, hopping off stuff and doing bmx type stuff on their fixed bikes, i'm not taking anything away from Surly frames as I think they are great frames, but if i'm jumping down a 6 set of stairs I would want a plug or a cutter underneath me not a bob jackson, or a blb own brand.

Only thing with the cutter version 2 is that there's not a lot of room for larger tyres at the rear, i'm running 28c Shwalbe Marathon Plus and the axles have to be as far back in the drop outs as possible.... Just my 2cents...

Yeah that is a downside to that frame, i'm gonna speak to Ted about getting the Chainstays dented in or something to take bigger tyres, i'm running 32's and it is a tight squeeze.