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• #52
Those are nice - not sure I'd call them light though. MInd you, anything's light compared to the Almax or Krypto M18 I use.
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• #53
Fuckinell Steff, nobody's stealing your shit eh?
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• #54
I bought a Fuji specifically as the "nickable" bike, which was nicked when someone cut a Steel-O-Flex apparently with the greatest of ease. I found myself surprisingly upset and decided to "go nuclear". The M18 was bought specifically to be lighter than the Almax, believe it or not, as I have a cracked rib at present.
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• #55
M18 = most excellent choice.
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• #56
Aye, I like that it will do front wheel+frame+stand or front wheel (detached)+frame+rear wheel+stand if I'm locking up for longer.
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• #57
Ed, the Abus Granit X 54 is one of the best locks ever. Abus do use specially hardened steel, but under equal testing, it doesn't live with 18mm locks. Its only a 13mm thick lock. Still excellent, but the normal base for this list is 16mm, and 18mm locks easily outlast the 13mm Granit X 54, under tests.
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• #58
GA2G - Where did you get that pitlock photo from?
I actually intend to use a min-d on my front wheel to the frame, in addition to the Pitlock. Yes, that might be overkill, but pitlock is light so I save weight. :)
Plus, it means I don't have to worry about the front wheel if I am leaving it for a short while so much.
I just got an email from Almax (because I am buying one of their chains soon), and it gives some useful info you might want to add to the list:
The Series IV weighs 6.31kgs per metre the Series III weighs 4.34kgs per metre. both chains cannot be boltcropped by hand. The Series IV was designed for home security and for people who have to park outside.
The Squire lock weighs 1.1kgsFucking hell!
I still think I am going to get one, though. Leave the chain at work, then only get it out when I am going out for a drink afterwork or am leaving it someplace for a while.
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• #59
Out of interest, how does the M18 Compare to the Fag? What is the difference? other than being bigger?
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• #60
I think it's the same lock, just with a longer shackle. In the past, I've got tired of looking for the exact right spot to lock up with a mini-D, and being able to do both wheels, frame and stand is smashing.
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• #61
I cannot emphasise enough quite how sufficiently heavy the Almax III is, BTW. Any heavier and you're into the lock weighing more than the bike.
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• #62
So you use an M18 with a Series 3?
The problem, as I see it, with the series 3 is that the 0.7m version is too short to sling round the shouldr or your waist, my waist is about 85 cm. And the 1.5m is too long.
The Series 4 and the kryp are 1m, which is perfect.
As for Almax breaking the Krpy with a bolt cutter, I think thats only possible because the chain is on the ground, which is how it is with a motorcyle - but with bikes, it'll be in the air, making a bolt cropper impossible. Obviously, they can all be angle grinded - but a mini on the rear and a chain round the front (and i totally see your argument for the flexiblity it allows you, as I hate trying to find somewhere to fit a mini d) would literally make the bike impossible to be stolen at busy times of day in busy areas. Its a small investment for a peace of mind I think.
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• #63
Nah, I use M18 on its own or 1.5M Series 3 with the CISA padlock. I find the III goes round my shoulder fine BTW, though it could do with being a bit shorter just for weight saving - might borrow a grinder at some point, even. The air/ground thing is a bit spurious, I think. I'm about 99% certain one of the CaptainCropper videos has the cropper heads in the air - you just stand on/against one grip and lean on the upper one.
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• #64
Anyone know anything about these U-locks, the Palmy ones?
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• #65
?
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• #66
What?
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• #67
The IV is 50 percent heavier. Your III is 50 percent longer.
Therefore, the IV 1m will be same weight. £140 is a lot, but its peace of mind and am thinking about cyclefit and don't want to waste that money on a bike that gets nicked.
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• #68
Anyone know anything about these U-locks, the Palmy ones?
A simple search reveals this Opinions on Palmy Locks
I believe that it was first designed as ear-rings, but the manufacturer misunderstood the measurements,
and with redundant stock, decided to try to fob them off to idiots as colourful u-locks.Some people apparently have shown interest in it.
This story was wonderfully resourced by the most excrement journalists
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• #69
Thought I'd just post a quick price update,
You can get the Onguard Pitbull on Amazon for £16.99 with free shipping.
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• #70
Thought I'd just post a quick price update,
You can get the Onguard Pitbull on Amazon for £16.99 with free shipping.
Drumsey, the lock you highlighted does NOT fit the criteria for this thread. Stick it in the Locks thread instead. It is only a 13mm diameter lock, and the regular standard for being listed here, is 16mm. The one and only exception is the Abus Granit X 54, which is 13mm, but vastly superior due to is very specially hardened steel.
I realise that you're new here, and your contributions are valuable, but reading the Original Post is important, for keeping on track with things.
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• #71
I just bought the Fahgettaboudit Mini d as a smaller option to the massive abus one I have been dragging around with me, and whilst it is smaller, it weighs nearly twice as much! like almost 2kg. Not sure if I would have bought it it I realised the weight. hmmm, shall i send it back?
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• #72
you'll get used to the weight mate, I found it very heavy (but also reassuring that it's a strong lock), but after a couple weeks riding with them using a lock holster, I managed to forget about carrying it even!
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• #73
sasmon, if you do want rid I would be interested in buying as I tend to leave my locks at work and home so weight not an issue, unless of course you can get a full refund from your place of purchase. Reading these threads has made up my mind to upgrade my security. I'm gonna get me two of those immobiliser chains and a couple of quality d locks! ftw!
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• #74
chains are fail fail fail
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• #75
chains are fail fail fail
Really Dylan? Even 16mm and now 19mm chains?
I didn't list the more common 11mm or 13mm chains on purpose.
Which 16mm chain have you had fail on you?
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/accessories/locks/product/granit-x-plus-54-10512