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Thanks matey. Will scour around now.

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thanks bluequinn i was also thinking of sticking a campy record headset on there not to steep £50ish will that be fine? i can get a threaded one

I have a campag record and it's one of the favourite parts of my bike. A beaut.

I have one (new) if you want? £40 - includes P&P

Rocker, as now, what do you still needing?

well lets see everything apart from wheels (is i get the phill open pros ^) and a headset if i get that ^

btw steerer tubes dont have diferent sizes do they!? just so i know before i go buying that campy headset

I have a campag BB, 111mm, new

how do i know it will fit the frame i get? i cant be sure can i :S once il get my frame il start buying stuff specific to it :) but i like the sound of that, are they good?

this is for italian threading BB, good? yes it is

then a seguino crank (the cheapest) £65

Also have one of these available!

165mm
44T
Only about 100miles of use
£60 ono

er :S italian threading, thats one of the standards? im thinking of trying to get a bianchi pista

what crank is that seguino messenger?

Rocker, you sound like you want an old frame, if that's the case the headset I posted above will fit ;)

Yep it's a messenger/RD - No problems with it at all.

ooh sounds nice :) arent they about £100 new?

Cheapest I can find at the mo is £75 (then add P&P) - http://www.velosolo.co.uk/shopcrank.html

But that's a different chainring, not sure on quality. I'm sure it's fine. The one on the one's I have cost about £25-40 new...

ah cool i need to scrape some funds together at the mo got £110 atm so i can buy the campy headset and the cranks then im getting £250 for my birthday plus other people giving me monmey so i can get the wheel set then il have to sit tight and wait to get more cash for the frame etc :)

Modern frames like the Bianchi Pista will have threadless forks/headset. no good for either a quill stem or that particular Campag Record headet

Also, with square-taper cranks there are 2 taper pitches, Japanese or European. All Suginos are Japanese except the '75', which is euro.

Then there are modern cranks which aren't square taper at all.

And then there thread pitches on Frames. Italian and British are different, so you need to know what your frame is before you buy one.

Take a look on Sheldon's site to get more info.

Cool, I was gonna stick them on eBay in the next week or two, but I'm fine to wait if you're waiting on some money :)

bluequinn - Arghhh buying a frame seems very daunting now :(

EDIT - pifko i should be able to take that crank of your hands :D

TBH If you want a Bianchi Pista frame like you said earlier, it'd be cheaper to buy the whole bike, new - off the peg.

meh :/ i really dont want to buy an otp, i want to build a bike from the ground upwards on preferably a vintage track frame, bianchi pista was a modern frame i liked the look of though! any help on the frame front would be seriously appreciated!

bluequinn - Arghhh buying a frame seems very daunting now :(

Just buy the frame first and then BB, headset and stem. Sheldon says that Euro and Japanese BB tapers are interchangeable (although they alter the chainline). So go ahead and buy a crank now if you get a good offer.

+1

frame first, then the rest

yeh exactly my thoughts, how about wheels? ;) those phil wood, mavic open pros look lush £300 good deal?