G20 demonstrations

I love how so many of these 'fight the man for our rights' rioters are still happy to support one of the biggest providers of money to the government they supposedly detest so much....the Tobacco industry!

G20 on Vimeo

last video i'll upload, this one shows abit more belief

Faith changes nothing.
Governments make the changes and always will...rioting and demonstrating only creates headlines.
If you want to beat the man....it takes EVERYONE coming together for the same thing....and everyone wants different things...and most don't have a clue what they actually want.
How many people there today even had a fucking clue what they were actually fighting for or how to achieve the end result they think they want?

Keep your Faith.

Ouch, that's a bit pessimistic, probably realistic though. Things have been changed in the past, take the suffragettes and the chartists for example. They did know what they want though, so that's a good point you've got there.

Also they were at times when the country was slowly moving towards the left - this thread reinforces my belief that at the moment it's slowly moving towards the right.

Also they were at times when the country was slowly moving towards the left - this thread reinforces my belief that at the moment it's slowly moving towards the right.

I hope not.

And you won't find it on the end of a billboard, the front of a t-shirt, or spewing from the mouths of a few hundred rioters.
You can throw as many computers out of as many windows as you like...by the end of the day all you'll have is a lot of broken computers and a shitload of punctures!

Funny that. I remember the government saying that fuel prices were going up. The public said no. The goverment said yes. The public said no. Government said yes. The public brought things to their knees. The planned price hike was canceled.

I love how so many of these 'fight the man for our rights' rioters are still happy to support one of the biggest providers of money to the government they supposedly detest so much....the Tobacco industry!
Owned. But it's not our fault that the dirty facist govenment got us all addicted to nicotine. I blame the parents.

Funny that. I remember the government saying that fuel prices were going up. The public said no. The goverment said yes. The public said no. Government said yes. The public brought things to their knees. The planned price hike was canceled.

And it's not that long ago that the poll tax hoohah killed Thatcher.

Funny that. I remember the government saying that fuel prices were going up. The public said no. The goverment said yes. The public said no. Government said yes. The public brought things to their knees. The planned price hike was canceled.

And you think the government didn't just make the money back through other means? car tax for example!

And it's not that long ago that the poll tax hoohah killed Thatcher.

If only...

And it's not that long ago that the poll tax hoohah killed Thatcher.

And things got so much better that wars have been fought still and now people are rioting again....RESULT!

Funny that. I remember the government saying that fuel prices were going up. The public said no. The goverment said yes. The public said no. Government said yes. The public brought things to their knees. The planned price hike was canceled.

It wasn't cancelled. The duty increase was deferred - it came in at midnight last night.

A couple of points arising from those videos.

1. Some really nice cameras and video cameras in the crowd suggests quite an affluent bunch.

2. Why do hippys bother to bang drums and blow brass instruments when it is clear to behold that they don't have an ounce of musical talent between them?

You fucking take that back! I play the lute.

I play the lute.

Plucky

Nothing but a pseudo-political pile of shit devoid of anything resembling meaning. If the people present had simply taken the time to properly understand the issues at hand and the radical doctrines that they espouse, something significant could have taken place. Anarchy is a complex theory based on a positive perception of human nature, not growing dreadlocks, dancing to Drum and Bass and putting a brick through the odd window.

Anarchy is a complex theory based on a positive perception of human nature, not growing dreadlocks, dancing to Drum and Bass and putting a brick through the odd window.

You have a point or two there...

Plucky

You're needed over on the violins thread.

I, however, am needed at easts. I'd better get off the internet and the right side of a pint.

Anarchy is a complex theory based on a positive perception of human nature, not growing dreadlocks, dancing to Drum and Bass and putting a brick through the odd window.

I think I'm in love...

For the record, I was there today and I knew why I was there: When the banks collapsed it was suddenly no problem to get hold of £600bn, just like that, however to get enough money together to eradicate poverty or invest in alternative energies takes centuries!

are you joking?
you must have some understanding or idea as to why the government had to lend the banks money, right?

are you joking?
you must have some understanding or idea as to why the government had to lend the banks money, right?

Because we're completely subservient to a fucked up system which we have to prop up while leaving manufacturing to go to the wall? Woolies worker? Tough for you. Amusing that the companies that are the bastions of capitalism and the people who insist it's the only way are also the people immune to their own survival of the fittest mantra when it all goes tits up.

Compare that twat in the video above to this, it's shameful

YouTube - Athens riot

Did anyone spot my 'Free Tibet' banner then?

maybe, did it have trannys against war on the other side? ;)

not that your a tranny its just the most memorable banner i saw...

Because we're completely subservient to a fucked up system which we have to prop up while leaving manufacturing to go to the wall? Woolies worker? Tough for you. Amusing that the companies that are the bastions of capitalism and the people who insist it's the only way are also the people immune to their own survival of the fittest mantra when it all goes tits up.

what? comparing a bank to woolworths? that is definitely some daily mail styled reasoning, but ok.

here's the problem though, when woolworths went bang it was at most a few thousand jobs, many of those unskilled, minimum wage affairs. i'm not saying it's not an awful, sad thing to have happened but in the long run it is not the end of the world. we can, as a country, afford to support those people who lost their jobs until they find new ones (if ever).
what do you think would have happened if we let northern rock sink, same with RBS. people would have lost everything, not just a job, everything; houses, pensions, savings, investments. thousands of business' would have failed overnight. it would have just snowballed and snowballed.
the problem doesn't lie with the bailing out of the banks perse, it lies with what the banks then do with the money once they've been bailed out which is why you get OH NOES FRED DA SHRED etc, etc, etc.
you put up a good arguement to support the idea that reverting back to living the lifestyle of the 1300's, (killing animals with our bare hands, bartering with our neighbours, fearing rare and pillage on a daily basis - i don't actually know wtf was going on in the 1300, but anyway..) is the right way to go, but unfortunately i think that capitalism is probably here to stay.

ha!