Building From scratch

Hi Guys,
I was thinking of building up a frame (im probably looking for some old raleigh or peugeot frame, so until i've got that i cant start, obviously!) i have about £500 budget and was not sure where to put the money, i was looking at hubjub and, god, those nitto bars, got to have one of them, probably one of the drops so thats about £45 gone, then a seguino crank (the cheapest) £65 and then im am lost on which wheels to buy, im going to try and use the headset on the frame, and il probably buy a stronglight stainles steel ring and a dura ace cog for the wheel, a KMX chain (whatever i need 1/4 / 3/38" etc) a shimano BB oh an a nitto stem (possibly) if anyone has any parts going spare i might take snap them up :) oh and tyres, how much should i spend and which should i get i heard those soma everwears are good but at £40 a tyre, thats ridiculous (in my opinion) hehe.

Anyway, thanks (oh and any links to older threads would be very helpful as well, and i have searched around a fair bit)

Will

Peugeots sometimes have odd sized tubes - seat posts are a nightmare to find for them, and the threads are french-threaded.
Raleighs might be Raleigh-threaded. (when they were the largest factory in the world they didn't need to bother with standards.)

Both of these are a pain in the arse to get bits for. British or Italian thread is much easier.

There is a thread which is a list of tyres. There are similar lists of other components.

To be honest you can build a very nice bike for £500.

thanks for the help, il go have alook for that thread now :)

I would spend more on cranks - it's where all the business happens.

^ too right mate

what should i go for, i have to say the seguino messenger cranks are :O amazing, but i dont think i can pay £135 for cranks! if anyone has any old ones for sale thats a totally different story :D hehe but if anyone does have any good cranks on sale im very interested!

Does anyone know whether the sugino RD cranks are any good? they look the business

I use the Sugino RD cranks on the track, no problems so far.

Ah ok, might go for them then unless anyones selling some older better ones on the cheap :)

I've recently aquired an RD crankset from a fellow forumenger and I have no complaints thus far.

sounds good then 2 positive reviews, has anyone got that straight bar from velosolo, the 'squeeze' bar? and (im sure loadz of you have one of these) a 'nitto dynamic Forged Quill Stem 25.4mm Clamp' at £37 looks like quite a good deal?

Thanks

I should have really prefaced my comments by saying that I have no idea what Im talking about.

hehe

I'd probably concentrate on getting your frame first though, before thinking about parts

yeh i know hehe!

Hi Guys,
I was thinking of building up a frame (im probably looking for some old raleigh or peugeot frame, so until i've got that i cant start, obviously!) i have about £500 budget and was not sure where to put the money, i was looking at hubjub and, god, those nitto bars, got to have one of them, probably one of the drops so thats about £45 gone, then a seguino crank (the cheapest) £65 and then im am lost on which wheels to buy, im going to try and use the headset on the frame, and il probably buy a stronglight stainles steel ring and a dura ace cog for the wheel, a KMX chain (whatever i need 1/4 / 3/38" etc) a shimano BB oh an a nitto stem (possibly) if anyone has any parts going spare i might take snap them up :) oh and tyres, how much should i spend and which should i get i heard those soma everwears are good but at £40 a tyre, thats ridiculous (in my opinion) hehe.

Anyway, thanks (oh and any links to older threads would be very helpful as well, and i have searched around a fair bit)

Will

With the tyres, I personally recommend Armadillos are ridiculously hardwearing (they last years) and only got them £20 a piece.

Though look here http://www.londonfgss.com/thread11148.html ... very useful list.

I got a pair of RD's... seem all good

thanks for the help, il be sure to check out that list lucas, wow just looked now, looks fantastic, im sure i wont need much help if i have all of that information, much appreciated!

oh just in case i cant find a case in my area where would you suggest i look online? ebay?
Thanks

Use the search for "list of lists". Comprehensive database of bits.

I have already looked at that but im looking for something cheap an old frame preferably
thanks

I thought we were talking components?

I'd put money into a decent frame and wheels with whatever componentry fitted the budget.

I don't see an old Carbolite gate with Nittos as a winner.

Not that there's anything specifically wrong with that, if it makes you happy!

Perhaps consider a moderately priced OTP (secondhand?) and then a rolling upgrade program as you establish exactly what you require from each component.

Then when you've upgraded everything, rebuild the OTP and sell it!

i really got my heart on an old frame, its just something i really want to do, get an old frame and give it a new paintjob and make it look the business! a classic looking bike, mind i do quite like charge plug and specialized langster frames so if anyone has or knows anyone who is sellling one cheap i would be much obliged

http://www.bobjacksoncycles.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=45
Is this a good frame then, i was thinking a front arrospok (or Deep V) and a rear deep V with a polished formula hub :) then a shimano 105 front brake then i have no idea for a headset (do a need anything special for a quill stem?) preferably something classic like a campag record but i doubt my budget could afford that (£800 probably more) nitto quill and drops or risers, open to ideas for a saddle and a classic looking seatpost (second hand nitto?) any brushed metal! suigino RD cranks with a surly stainless steel ring and dura ace for the rear cog and KMC chain probably, any advice would be much appreciated!