If my ankle heals up, Clive, we'll get a RPLZ run heading out North-East. There's either undulating routes round the lanes or a sort of ven diagram double loop that's 10 miles round Epping Forest with a couple of interesting climbs (and better road surface than Boxhill). The loop can be done as many times as you fancy, and is only about 10 miles out from EC1/N1.
And that Boxhill café serves up a load of dried out over-priced shit these days.
Sounds like a plan. Thanks BMMF