Steal ability factor

Open Pros

That yours hipster? Very nice. What bars are on there out of interest? Silver or black, 26mm?

Of course it's a compromise, people can ride what they want! 36H isn't unusual, and which you chose depends on:

Value to you of £1 worth of extra spokes.
Value to you of 25g weight saving.
Chance of having to spend time/money replacing spokes/rims/truing wheels.
Value of your time.

If I were 14st, I'd buy £1 of spokes and take the 25g hit now to avoid having to spend random time here and there in the future fixing stuff. In other words, the compromise is small and IMO the benefit is (relatively) larger (0.5hr of my time at £25 an hour, say is a lot more than £1!) :-)

Well I'm nearly 19st, not the worlds most graceful rider but I seem to have gotten away with 32h Open Pros for the last 6 months with no problems. I've hit plenty of potholes, smashed into gutters and genrally abused my rims with no problems. Sure they might not survive a stair gap but is a road bike, so don't listen to little blokes telling you you must have 36h deep profile rim.

That yours hipster? Very nice. What bars are on there out of interest? Silver or black, 26mm?

They were cheap alu bars cloth taped black. They've been sold.

Of course it's a compromise, people can ride what they want! 36H isn't unusual, and which you chose depends on

People can ride what they want? Really? No way.

Which 36h hub would you use?

I've no doubt you can get 32H open pros to hold true, but it's also the case that you're more likely to get fatigue problems if you're a heavier rider .

http://www.jinglemad.com/e107_files/public/1193322240_6527_FT50091_wrong_answer.mp3

if you break a 32 hole open pro on a correctly laced wheel through correct use then you'll get a warranty replacement, because it'll be rare and you'll just be unlucky.

if you ride like a dick, on a poorly built wheel and you break one, then you're a dick with a broken wheel.

Which 36h hub would you use?

https://www.londonfgss.com/thread9696.html

And interestingly, that thread contains a discussion about the merits of 36H for a larger rider including this comment:

and 36h is definitely stronger.

As I said, 25g and £1 worth of extra spokes is worth it IMO for a commuting wheel. Enough from me, I think the OP has more than enough info to come to his own decision!

:-)

How about buying my 4X Laced 36 Hole Open Pro laced to a System Ex double fixed hub - dont get much better/tougher than that for commuting round London, and has only been used on the Bridges Ride? :)

http://www.londonfgss.com/thread13521.html

Inner tubes are the go... My frame used to look nice - It now looks like arse. Also protects the shitty shitty enamel. Cant believe how easily it chips. HTFU schwinn enamel!

Also, dont get too attached. Its gonna disappear at some stage.

Also, over-insure ;)

Balki, you got a white Madison, recently covered in inner tubes? I see such a bike occasionally locked up to the stairs in the hallway of my building

How about buying my 4X Laced 36 Hole l

4x 36H - don't the spokes come very close to touching heads?

Courant

the word 'look' has been used far too many times in this thread. Doesnt sound like you give a shit about what it looks like right? Velocity Deep v's (and i realise that im commiting sacrilige here) are not particuarly good quality rims, and only worth going for if u want the look. There will be no aerodynamic advantages to using such a wheel (its a single speed after all) aerodynamics are discountable unless your reachin 25 mph approx.
I would recommend A mavic open pro. Sports are noticably less robust. I have built wheels with all the rims talked about above and none of them build better than an open pro (or ultimately a dt swiss rr 1.1 but they are pricey)
Fuck the deep section, its so not necessary
I think im ready for the abuse ;)

system ex hubs are great value and nice and smooth, all other hubs of this particular design are made by the same people (formula) so if you want them in black go for formula as they work out slightly cheaper without the branding.

im a fully qualified mechanic by the way.

oh we definitely need to know that!

. There will be no aerodynamic advantages to using such a wheel (its a single speed after all) aerodynamics are discountable unless your reachin 25 mph approx.

Whether it is s/s or fixed is of no importance only the gear your pushing. Surely a fully qualified mechanic would know that? ;-)

I was under the impression that a 3x 32h cxp33 would be about the same as a 3x 36h OP, in terms of both how robust the wheel would be, and how heavy the wheel would be.

The OPs might be more comfy to ride (could you really notice?)
The CXPs would be more aero (this cant even be detectable surely)

The real world difference is that a 32H 3x CXP looks 'racier', and a 36H 3x OP would last longer despite a broken/loose spoke or two (+ they have eyelets).

Personally I went for 32H CXP33s laced 3x with DT competition spokes to Ambrosios (ie formula). They're big on looks and strength, but small in price and weight ;)

But again I would recomend the OPs to the OP.

Ok So weird first post but:

Has anyone thought about carrying around a condom full of fake giz and just laying it over the lock???
i mean surely any fief will just vomit and move on...

portable and at least 4 kgs lighter than 2 locks....

Ok So weird first post but:

Has anyone thought about carrying around a condom full of fake giz and just laying it over the lock???
i mean surely any fief will just vomit and move on...

portable and at least 4 kgs lighter than 2 locks....

Best first post ever

I'm new to london... from honkey tong but prepared...

all i'm saying is who wants to touch giz?

You should talk do Tynan - he shits on his

http://www.londonfgss.com/thread9696.html
And interestingly, that thread contains a discussion about the merits of 36H for a larger rider including this comment:
As I said, 25g and £1 worth of extra spokes is worth it IMO for a commuting wheel. Enough from me, I think the OP has more than enough info to come to his own decision!
:-)

I never denied 36h was stronger than 32h.

What I am saying is 32h are more common and insisting on 36h for a guy lighter than me when I've never had an issue with 32h just seems silly. If you're so keen to have bomb proof wheels that will never need truing blah blah why don't you go for the 4x 48h like I said?

ok enough of all this rim talk...most importanly TFL...in terms of your new set-up, what helmet are you going for?

What?!

Because the compromises in weight/cost/availability for 48H are too great, whereas for 32vs36H they're virtually nil! I.e. you get something (strength) for (almost) nothing - how much you value that something is subjective and personal, that's why there's choice in the world. I'm insisting on nothing, just pointing out the tradeoffs that exist. My opinion is only my opinion - the OP can pick and chose!

Cool. If it makes you feel better I have one bike with 32h and one with 36h
I'm in constant turmoil.. :-)