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  • Whenever I hear of hand models I think of George Costanza.

  • touchy subject, photography, bit like fixed bikes....(cue bun-fight, spit dummy out):

    //No, I'M a PROPER photographer
    /Yeah, I've been riding fixed, like, FOREVER...
    // No really, I used to shoot FILM and processed my own in the bad old days, never happier than when I'm in a darkroom really but the commercial business turnaround demands these days means that digital is the only option...
    / I spent years perfecting the chainline on my bike. The fact that it all matches colour-wise? Just incidental, not intended at all.

  • most photographers i have met are tossers.

  • most photographers i have met are tossers.

    Most of the tossers I've met are photographers.

  • conclusive proof that if you masturbate and own a camera you are a tosser.

  • I thought that if you masturbate you're a tosser regardless of camera ownership?

    Which reminds me, I need to cut down on wanking. Burns up too many valuable carbs, you see.

    Also reminds me, my Canon EOS 5, numerous lenses and Metz slave flashes have been sitting in the wardrobe devaluing for almost two years. :-(

  • Also reminds me, my Canon EOS 5, numerous lenses and Metz slave flashes have been sitting in the wardrobe devaluing for almost two years. :-(

    My point entirely...don't worry, your status as photographer has been noted! (ach, I'm only ribbing)

    most photographers i have met are tossers.

    Mr Smith I have never met you and so could not possibly comment. Are you really not RPM's imaginary friend?

  • My point entirely...don't worry, your status as photographer has been noted! (ach, I'm only ribbing)

    Mr Smith I have never met you and so could not possibly comment. Are you really not RPM's imaginary friend?

    my status as a photographer is that of someone who very rarely takes photos exxept for with his girlfriend's camera phone... note that.

  • Ive been really interested in photography for about 4 years now (im 17). I started with a casio exilim compact camera and then got a fuji s5600 bridge camera for christmas. I've basically taught myself everything I know. I did my AS level a year early, and ended up getting a higher mark then all the people in the year above. What really fucks me off is all the kids who get bought digital SLRS on a whim, without a shred of photographic knowledge and just end up using them on auto to take photos of their friends posing for myspace.

    just get a cheap film SLR.

    you can get a really really good one from next to nowt, while a digital equation would be quite expensive, and having learnt from using a film SLR, it´s a lots more useful to learn about photography than digital SLR (or any digital come to think about it)

    Learn with film, then translate to digital (even thought you´ve taught yourself quite a handful).

  • Quote:

      Originally Posted by **J-D-S-H** [![](http://www.londonfgss.com/images/londonfgss/buttons_lite/viewpost.gif)](http://www.londonfgss.com/thread11992.html#post347316) 
    

    Everyone's a fucking photographer these days. Humbug etc.

    Quote:

      Originally Posted by **nimhbus** [![](http://www.londonfgss.com/images/londonfgss/buttons_lite/viewpost.gif)](http://www.londonfgss.com/thread11992.html#post347346) 
    

    *that's very true.

    one of the reasons for this is that most people [I]can't tell a good image from a crap one.*[/I]

    fixed.

    Very true. There is so much visual diarrhoea out there.

    I can't particularly tell a good image from a crap one, either, but I'm not into snapping absolutely everything that happens. What's wrong with memories?

    Also, taking pictures hasn't got any easier merely because everybody can just press a button now. It's very difficult to take good pictures consistently.

  • i'm a member of the AOP (association of photographers) they helped draught the copyright designs and patent act 1998. they are very active in promoting proper licensing of images and IP (intellectial property).
    this isn't a bad thing. if you are dealing with large businesses they will have proper paperwork for their contracts, just because you are a sole trader shouldn't preclude you from doing likewise.
    put another way: I only got ripped off once. :-)

    i was not saying you where wrong, just friendly piss taking.

  • Mr Smith I have never met you and so could not possibly comment. Are you really not RPM's imaginary friend?

    you may have met me? the photography/cycling 'scenes' (i hate that word) are actually quite small.
    i'm not RPM's imaginary friend. I have known him for a long time, can't remember how long but i know mobile phones and hair were very big then.

  • just get a cheap film SLR.

    you can get a really really good one from next to nowt, while a digital equation would be quite expensive, and having learnt from using a film SLR, it´s a lots more useful to learn about photography than digital SLR (or any digital come to think about it)

    Learn with film, then translate to digital (even thought you´ve taught yourself quite a handful).

    Exactly what im doing atm. I'm using my dad's old Olympus OM10 and have a nice selection of top notch Zuiko lenses (recently won a mint 28mm on the bay for 17 quid :)). Also Ive gone right back to basics and am playing around with pinhole photography. I made a matchbox 35mm pinhole camera recently and have had good results from it.

  • OM10 eh? if you got a nice fast 50mm lens with it, take it out to old london town.

    advice - if you want quality film, get them off ebay, 5 rolls of Kodak Portra is still a lots cheaper than shitty Fuji Superia 400 in the high street (and the right labs that process them properly make a difference).

  • I'm shooting B&W atm (ilford pan 400) because thats what I get from college and I can process it myself, however I'm off to Morocco in a few weeks so will need some colour film to make the most of the trip. I may even buy a seperate OM body so I can shoot colur and b&w simultaneously.

    yeah Ive got a f1.8 50mm, living in cambridge theres plenty of opportunity for shots.

  • It's a while that I'm thinking about becoming a member of the AOP, but never managed to take a decision, it's quite a lot of money for the membership and I don't get how valuable the return would be....
    I mean, you get some discounts in few shops and you get your name in their huge book to get lost in the middle of another thousand(s) of photographers...
    mind, I don't have anything against the aop (actually I got my first job in london trough their jobshop section on the website) but is the membership worth the 315+ vat per year?
    I mean do you get any job coming in from their website/publications to covers at least the cost?

    i'm a member of the AOP (association of photographers) they helped draught the copyright designs and patent act 1998. they are very active in promoting proper licensing of images and IP (intellectial property).
    this isn't a bad thing. if you are dealing with large businesses they will have proper paperwork for their contracts, just because you are a sole trader shouldn't preclude you from doing likewise.
    put another way: I only got ripped off once. :-)

  • well, clearly he thinks it is worth it, since he is a member

  • pretty sure it's not £315, more like £160.

    IMO that's a good deal for what you get.

  • 160 is for assistants, for photographers there are two options, 315 or 240 if you work overseas...
    is not so cheap, then it's true, they do quite a lot of promotion, exhibitions and so on...
    I know what they offer "on the paper" just never met/worked with any photographer that is associated and was curios about some impressions..

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