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@Archie's_Grobags
Like i said before...it was never my intention to build a super light bike.
I chose parts first for quality/performance...sometimes price...then if i could get that from something that was also light it was a bonus...as Tynan pointed out, there are plenty of places i can lose weight on it.
Finished weight makes no difference to me...if it's ever near some scales i'll weigh it for you...but it is what it is.