So this has happened

I recently had wheels built at CONdor.

IIRC building was £25/wheel, black DB spokes 50p/ea.

I think murtle got complete wheels from BETD, check with him.

CONdor offer their own version of the Goldtec, slightly different shape.

I went for DT Swiss RR1.2 on Goldtec in the end. 100g heavier than CXP33 but alledgedly stronger. I looked at those Condor-Goldtecs and there's nothing to choose other than the shape - they are the same price. BETD were a few quid cheaper but you have to add P&P. I went with Condor as I can get them quicker, and take 'em back if there's a problem.

r u sure they are open pro's there is no reinforced eyelet?!? cxp33 or more shit than open pro's

I know I'm not that well up on all the diffent manufacturers, but they definitely had OpenPro stickers on them!

if you upgrade, will you sell your current hubs cheap to me?

I'm going to keep the front wheel as a spare, but you can have the back one to break for spares if you want it. I'll PM you when the new wheels come through.