Fat children ‘should be taken into care’

yeah but Steve without that economic reality you wouldn't have got Junior Spesh dude...

Pizza Hut I don't do
Junior Special when I come thru
Won't forget my fork and tissue
I want that Junior Special!!

as inciteful a social commentary as "Eleanor Rigby".

Whoever you are, happiness and a big heart is the key for a healthy life.

Whoever you are, happiness and a big heart is the key for a healthy life.

starcity is that you?

But they're ubiquitous. Kids learn to recognise brand logos before they recognise their own name written down. It's all going in, all the time, and needs to be consciously rejected.

On the whole, people, especially young ones, feel compelled to fit with their environment. This is what Darwin meant by survival of the 'fittest'. We're a highly adaptive species.

Pressure, pressure, pressure. Have you read 'The Subliminal Man', a short story by J. G. Ballard? It summed up the whole phenomenon way back in the (early?) 60s. Good read.

i wouldnt mind reading that story. sounds interesting.

i hear and understand all that you have said, but i dont think that its a convincing enough argument. i walk and ride past these places every day of my life too. why is it that i dont eat at those places? my up bringing wasnt without trips to the donalds and kfc and all that.

i suppose to answer my own question, i come from a background of severe health problems and chronic illness and i came to understand that a major area in which i could help myself was through diet. also moral issues came into play as i got older. but the point is, i realised that i dont merely want to be free from illness. i want to fucking shine and have vitality and life and health like i dreamed about. im getting there. and i know that for me, health is the goal. true health. therefore, fuck putting endless shit in my body. simple. i guess that if i can have a epiphany then others can too. but it requires and education that some arent given access to or knowledge of, or even a laziness on the part of some folk.

oh also im not trying to down play the role of emotional troubles in all this, or indeed medical issues, but im not talking about eating disorders. merely poor choices.

happiness and abig heart are definately an important role in a happy full life, but the key to health??

the ideaof a junior spesh is a crock of shit and an appalling bit of marketing to boot. appaling in its moral sense of course. however i'd like to believe that kids are taught this stuff aint good...

and the argument that "they open up in some of the most deprived areas" doesnt float with me either. there are fast food joints in posher areas too. not selling grizzley grissley chicken wings perhaps but still, round my way,a posh area, there is still a kebab shop, a dominos, fish and chip shopsetc. the rich folk still buy it too.

most of the nation eats too much fat,along with a whole host of other nasties in their food. meat eater through to vegans, even a lot of raw food vegans eat too much fat, and the effects over time can be devestating.

even a lot of raw food vegans eat too much fat, and the effects over time can be devestating.

every vegan I know has the worst imaginable diet.

@whatfriends - it's highly likely that your awareness regarding food stems, at least to some extent, from your history of chronic illness. It seems to be part of the human condition to only attain true empathy/deeper understanding after you've experienced something personally... unless you're some kind of saint.

I'm also assuming you're an adult. I too choose not to patronise junk food outlets, but I'm not struggling under the weight of peer pressure that so many young teenage people fall prey to as they all rush off for the lunchtime chicken and chips fix.

Thankfully, judging by the contributions on this thread, there are plenty of people with the knowledge and will to become/continue being positive role models and 'food mentors'.

Burger Me.

@whatfriends - it's highly likely that your awareness regarding food stems, at least to some extent, from your history of chronic illness. It seems to be part of the human condition to only attain true empathy/deeper understanding after you've experienced something personally... unless you're some kind of saint.

I'm also assuming you're an adult. I too choose not to patronise junk food outlets, but I'm not struggling under the weight of peer pressure that so many young teenage people fall prey to as they all rush off for the lunchtime chicken and chips fix.

Thankfully, judging by the contributions on this thread, there are plenty of people with the knowledge and will to become/continue being positive role models and 'food mentors'.

yea fair enough. i'll stop now. i get quite involved about stuff like this, but like you said, judging by the contributions..... its all good. i take things real personally sometimes and perhaps i should chill on it occasionally.

Is it so important to judge people on what they eat? do we really care for the well being of the kids or do we hold them up so we can look and stare and feel better about ourselves?

dude, im just about to go out, dont get me started again.

quickly though.

everyone judges others. everyone.fact. what we do, say act, eat drink etc all reflect how we see ourselves and others. its how we decide who we want to interact with on all levels. so yes, in a way it is important that we judge. i dont want to hang out with people who makes racist/ sexist jokes for example. i dont really want to go out with someone who eat endless hamburgers, because to my eyes, it speaks volumes, and i dont really agree with it. but ultimately i hope that i wouldnt be unkind to someone who was fat or had a shit diet etc just because of that fact. i mihgt not want them in my personal intimate sphere but i wouldnt treat them like a cunt. its the difference between judging and prejudice ya know?

hopefully we care about the kids. but the idea of feeling better about ourselves might be a side line benifit. we learn through experience, not always our own... shit, look at that fat kid, my little charlie isnt gonna get that big. get my point.

i never made it to brighton, so bristol city is calling me. enjoy your evo's.

do we hold them up?

They're too heavy.

"i dont want to hang out with people who makes racist/ sexist jokes for example"

WTF are you doing on here then?

" i dont really want to go out with someone who eat endless hamburgers"

That's south beers out then.

indeed dude the answer is no because they are toooo fucking heavy.

perfect dinner date for whatfriends

"i mihgt not want them in my personal intimate sphere but i wouldnt treat them like a cunt."

Yeah, Im totaly the same with peepel who cant spel.

whit yew talkin aboot ya cint?

Can't talk.. busy eating hamburgers.

just the one?

Actually, I lied, I'm eating Nutella straight from the jar because I couldn't find any other chocolate products in the house. Fat problem? huh?

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnutella

this thread is kinda interesting because there was a time when lived almost exclusively on beer I barely ate food at all thing is if you are not getting your minerals and vitamins you do notice the difference

you kinda go a bit yellow

kids buddha says eat your greens...;)

this thread is kinda interesting because there was a time when lived almost exclusively on beer I barely ate food at all thing is if you are not getting your minerals and vitamins you do notice the difference

I do notice that, while on the detox diet (temporary obviously), starting to eat vegans food made a whole difference to my body as well as my behaviour, sleeping battery, etc. greatly improved.

obviously the detox is temporary, but I can see simply sticking to vegans does make a whole difference, my skin is instantely clearer, I have more energy reserve after commuting up to central London, I woke up almost instantly instead of wanting to stay in bed, etc.

the biggest problem here is, non-vegans food still taste fucking delicious.

I'll says this;

a lots of us nowadays can't cook for shit, so it's easier to go to McDonald.

any logic in this?

do you have a link - dominos has gone down