• yeah, well, thanks for all the advice, you may be right, as i haven't done THAT kind of distance before, it's true. BUT, i regularly do 15-25 miles, and the saddle kills me on that too.
    and yesterday, it wasn't just discomfort, it was actually having to get off the bike every 2 miles and jump around in pain - as Prav will confirm.
    it just doesn't seem quite right to me. i will get some better padded shorts, yes, but i shouldn't need to cream up my buttocks just to do 20 miles, now should i?

    i've been suspecting for a few weeks that the swallow is not for me, i mgith be too heavy for it -it does bend like a fucker when i sit on it

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