Fixed or single speed

Errr...........motorcyclists, f1, touring car racers etc all apply the throttle when they are cornering as it aids their traction. That is the basis behind my thought processs for this discussion. That is what left foot braking came about so both brake and throttle can be applied through a corner.

I was wondering if the small contact patch of a bike tyre makes this technique valid on a fixed wheel....along with all the others that have been offered up to the discussion.

Theres a good episode of top gear where Jackie Stewart coaches the really slow presenter in a rear wheel drive car. Interestingly he also trains some current F1 drivers. I assure you they don't accelerate for traction.

left foot braking is generally used by rally drivers who are of course often on different terrain. I've been lucky enough to try it myself (Red letter days). you may thinking of the "drifting" that the older cars used to do. They don't do that anymore because of technology and the fact its slower.

Fnck off crybaby.

Go back to the start of this thread and read some of the nonsense that has spouted from your wordhole. As well as the on-topic crap, you've managed to call regulars; cunts, fascists cunts, child molesters and sheep.

Opinions are more than welcome here, but if most people think they are shit, you will be told.

Theres a good episode of top gear where Jackie Stewart coaches the really slow presenter in a rear wheel drive car. Interestingly he also trains some current F1 drivers. I assure you they don't accelerate for traction.

left foot braking is generally used by rally drivers who are of course often on different terrain. I've been lucky enough to try it myself (Red letter days). you may thinking of the "drifting" that the older cars used to do. They don't do that anymore because of technology and the fact its slower.

Maybe not for traction, but they do do it, no?
Would this be because it is faster?

i'm an extremist

You're an american- its expected isn't it?

Ok, let me lay my cards on the table straight and simple:

1. One of your posts sounds a lot like you are considering going fixed for the first time. I'm sorry I jumped to conclusions.

2. Prior to being embroiled in this argument, your posts have quite a sense of humour.

3. This thread seems to have brought out the worst in people (myself included) and that saddens me.

4. If this 'cliquey' attitude puts you off cycling, how are you still as every type of cycling I've ever come across seems to have this inherent cliquishness. This forum is by far and away the least cliquey cycling group I've been involved with (from downhill MTB to Triathlons- before you ask).

Finally, no one is an extremist here, you did start out fairly aggressively (calling mashton a cunt and all), so actually its a bit ridiculous you hitting out at extremists when your actions are just as (if not more so) extreme.

You're a bit like Israel, basically.

well Chris is apparently.

Why don't you read the posts which i posted to the guy that actually started the thread. Was I rude to him? NO why? because he wasn't rude to me.

For the last time Mashton was rude to me. I gave it back. It could have been left there but others felt it necessary to jump in. And I am and will continue to stand my ground.

Anyone who takes the I must know better because I went to Cambridge line with me is a going to be called a cunt. No one is going to convince me otherwise.

left foot braking is generally used by rally drivers who are of course often on different terrain. I've been lucky enough to try it myself (Red letter days). you may thinking of the "drifting" that the older cars used to do. They don't do that anymore because of technology and the fact its slower.

All F1 drivers these days left foot brake. Ther is no clutch on modern cars therefore one foot per pedal.

They brake whilst there is drive to the wheels as it is better/easier to control the vehicle whilst under drive, rather than coasting.

But this isn't about bikes or fg or ss. Arguing about F1 here seems silly.

Grow up

Grow up

i'm trying, its hard, i had to pay taxes this year :(

i'm trying, its hard, i had to pay taxes this year :(

Yeah, know what you mean, it's painful but inevitable. On the bright side it means that you can start earning more pocket money to spend on nice bicycles :-)

All F1 drivers these days left foot brake. Ther is no clutch on modern cars therefore one foot per pedal.

They brake whilst there is drive to the wheels as it is better/easier to control the vehicle whilst under drive, rather than coasting.

But this isn't about bikes or fg or ss. Arguing about F1 here seems silly.

people are just deliberately taking it in another direction. cycles can't aqua plane apparently, See Sheldon's site for his explanation if you are interested. A F1 driver will reduce speed at the approach to the corner and not put the power back down until after the apex.

I suggest you do the same on a bike. set your entering speed before hand. Coasting can enable the rider to keep the downward force balance over the 2 wheels more constant. I suggest that the motion of pedaling can make it more difficult to keep this consistency. For me fast cornering is about smoothness.

Several people have suggested that there aren't any corners that you can take at 20mph in london!...traffic , pedastrians..etc maybe left turn...blah..blah

Night rides!!! and as we ride/drive on the left I'll think you might find the faster corners will be the ones which you turn off a road for a right.

fuck me! drop it!!!!!!!!!

fuck me! I dropped it!!!!!!!!!

soap on a rope aidan, it will save your ass

fuck me! drop it!!!!!!!!!

read my posts. I'm not backing down. I can't spell it out any clearer.

What did Mashton expect me to say?

Oh sorry your superior highness, can i polish your shoes for you?

man, what was funny is starting to be heavy, let it be.
Yes, you are right...

read my posts. I'm not backing down. I can't spell it out any clearer.

What did Mashton expect me to say?

Oh sorry your superior highness, can i polish your shoes for you?

i have read your posts...its beginning to become VERY boring...
not sure it you have realised but mashton is not interested.

i have read your posts...its beginning to become VERY boring...
not sure it you have realised but mashton is not interested.

Didn't stop you and others jumping in though.

me and others have very much jumped out...let this discussion die.

me and others have very much jumped out...let this discussion die.

but I have only just warmed up

Torpid, just wondering but are you Hacked, or Hacked 2?

Torpid, just wondering but are you Hacked, or Hacked 2?

No

My newness as a user has already been discussed. see previous posts in this thread

but I have only just warmed up

I don't know why i'm still reading this. cracking one off over pornhub.com would have been way more fun

ditto ben...
torpid sounds like you're getting quite upset by the whole thing maybe you should ride the way you do and let others do the same...
or you're actually doing it to get a rise... actually why the f@£k am i commenting...
Fixed all the way!

well Chris is apparently.

Why don't you read the posts which i posted to the guy that actually started the thread. Was I rude to him? NO why? because he wasn't rude to me.

For the last time Mashton was rude to me. I gave it back. It could have been left there but others felt it necessary to jump in. And I am and will continue to stand my ground.

Anyone who takes the I must know better because I went to Cambridge line with me is a going to be called a cunt. No one is going to convince me otherwise.

OK, this is mental. Please quote my alleged rudeness, so that I know what you are talking about. I merely attempted to discover the kind of physics that you were referring to. I think that my strongest word was 'twaddle'. Not exactly offensive. I mentioned Cambridge, I'm sorry. To be honest, the kind of physics to which I referred, I learnt in A-Level courses, in a small town in middle England. So what?

To say that I would find myself on a pub floor or that my accident was 'karma' is unbelievable.

I will now be rude: In my mind you have the existential worth of a testicular worm, a worm that has turned it's back on other worms and rapes the ones it encounters. The kind of raping testicular worm that would never even give the reach around. Fuck you, you worthless piece of shit stirring fuck-juice scum. Honestly, please, go and self hurt.

I won't post on this thread again because:

a) It is pointless
b) I am finding it upsetting
c) Feeding trolls can be dangerous.

Thanks for ruining an otherwise lovely day.

ditto ben...

Really? We could do some sort of combined group masturbation, that could be fun. Anyone else for this?