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• #177
Maybe you didn't bother reading my other posts.
i wasn't talking to you.
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• #178
If the theory is that a bikes wheel holds the road better when being driven (pedalled in this case) rather than when it is freewheeling then surely this will negate (some of) the weight placement theory?
If its wet then you need to get more weight over the back to keep grip for the same level of torque in the dry. I personally feel the weight = downward force is more important at the front to assure enough traction.
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• #179
i wasn't talking to you.
My bad
sorry
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• #180
this was way more fun when you were rising to my childish comments :(
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• #181
this was way more fun when you were rising to my childish comments :(
no rise, just playing you.
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• #182
oh shit, pwned :(
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• #183
From my personal experience I prefer riding a fixed wheel in the wet as you get a better level of feedback from the road plus far more modular braking & as you rightly point out if you slide the back end you are much less likely to come a cropper than the front end.
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• #184
When other people jump in like that it only reinforces a clicky in crowd tone.
My own view is that 'cliquey' describes a 'clique', whilst 'clicky' might be a good name for an animated frog on children's TV, always getting into scrapes and adventures, and resolving any problems with a click based song at the end of the show.
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• #185
One of the best thread I have read in this forum, sadly because the wrong reasons, but I couldn't stop laughing.
I hope today everyone see the all thing like a bad experience of but should no happen again between people whon have something in comun, bikes. -
• #186
which 5 joey deacons voted singlespeed?
:-D
I thought that me and my brother-in-law Jason were the only people that still called people Joey Deacon. Jas goes the extra mile by using it to gain the attention of waiters and shop assistants.
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• #187
Wow, i missed so much by leaving the house for a day!
First off, thanks to Wayne, badtmy and aidan for looking out for my, much sullied, reputation. Thanks to TC for everything else - you are a one, aren't you?
I would like to throw another fizz-suxks point into the mix, about balance rather than traction (which IIRC was the original point of contention) : the gyroscopic effect of the pedalling action will serve to increase the upright stabiliry of the bike / rider. In combination with hippy's point about the position of your centre of gravity being almost completely independent of leg motion ( observe your c o g when walking, jogging etc - in cycling it is better due to no net upward thrust as when you 'bounce' a running step), then peddaling looks like a more stable dynamic cornering proposition than freewheeling.
Of course, there ae caveats: pedal strike if crank length is inapprpopriate; inability to control c o g position at high cadence; bad pedalling style leading to uneven traction... But, in the proposed situation of a non-novice fixed rider in London on an appropriate bike, i think that they should be disregarded.
I suspect that the determining factor here is rider experience, not drive train technology - it would be rash to bet the farm on SS or fixed. Making a blanket statement that SS is better at balancing through corners seems similarly rash and not a little incendiary (witness the firestorm).
As for giving proper citation of my qualifications before using them, if you have a problem with that then it rather undermines your position as a serious debator. You may have noticed a certain self-defamatory interlude in brackets before I mentioned Cambridge; it's not something I would bandy around with scant regard to context, but it seemed appropriate here.
Fuck me, that was a lot to type on a touchscreen handheld :-(
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• #188
at least these 4 pages of heated discussion were on an original subject.
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• #189
Yeah, it is surprising how few SS v Fixed threads we have had, given the name of the forum.
Interesting as well, that this thread is backed up by a poll - let democracy speak. Although look where that got us on Friday... :-(
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• #190
Your aviator pic suggest that you ain't got much experience of corners ;)
:)
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• #191
I can't imagine my legs separated from my body. I'm not going to try either.
Drive chain action can effect traction at the *front.
*How?I adjust before the corner so i don't need to during the corner. Its safer that way I reckon.
Until you HAVE to adjust mid-corner, then what do you do?
Your aviator pic suggest that you ain't got much experience of corners ;)
What, the viking kitten helmet? It's not actually mine.
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• #192
If its wet then you need to get more weight over the back to keep grip for the same level of torque in the dry. I personally feel the weight = downward force is more important at the front to assure enough traction.
So, lean forward.
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• #193
Nothing to say really ................ just dont want the thread to die
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• #194
hehe
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• #195
Fnck, missed all of this. Boo.
So, who was Turpin Cuntstruck on the old forum, then?
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• #196
Appar, he was ANALPLEASER, with a total of 1 post or something! Lameness.
IMO
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• #197
Appar, he was ANALPLEASER, with a total of 1 post or something! Lameness.
IMO
You know what the real beauty of this particular forum is?
It's so localized.
Now let's just imagine we weren't on an internet forum and this was happening in a pub. Imagine someone having to come to your aid and pick you off the floor.
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• #198
So, lean forward.
Come on hippy, your the only one so far to switch there brain on for this debate.
do motorcyclists, f1, tour car driver put there foot down on the accelerator to gain more traction through corners?
They brake before the corner and they don't put the power down until they can put it on and leave it on.
And yes I am aware car tyres can aqua plane in the rain.
If you have to correct your self in the corner then you got it wrong. The idea is not to get it wrong, fg or ss.
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• #199
Now let's just imagine we weren't on an internet forum and this was happening in a pub. Imagine someone having to come to your aid and pick you off the floor.
That, torpid construct, is lame + stupid.
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• #200
That, torpid construct, is lame + stupid.
Call it what you like.
oooh, i bet you are a gangster with a 13" dick too