Sun June 29th, High-noon - LondonFgSs Spring Track Day Event at Herne Hill Velodrome

andyp 1. teenslain

1. cornelius blackfoot
   
2. MA3K
   
3. unxetas
   
4. jonnywilkinson
   
5. Roland
   
6. dt
   
7. stompy
   
8. Jon
   
9. mashton
   
10. htay That was me!
    
11. thisisrob (RJM)
    
12. brett
    
13. kowalski
    
14. edmundane
    
15. slamm
    
16. RPM
    
17. The Nimhbus
    
18. JOL
    
19. provenrad
    
20. Skullhead
    
21. flickwg
    
22. Sam
    
23. cougar(aidan)
    
24. stevo_com
    
25. OCD
    
26. BringMeMyFix
    
27. Big Daddy Wayne [hell yeah!]
    
28. Splatbucket
    
29. Onemagicru
    
30. Chris Crash
    
31. Sparky
    
32. Skoota
    
33. Object
    
34. lappiesza
    
35. B
    
36. Fixedwheelnut
    
37. J4mmd
    39.fixedfreak
    
38. ornmnt
    
39. andyp
    
40. Willski
    
    

Gives meandyp an incentive to get my track bike built! :-)

1. teenslain
   
2. cornelius blackfoot
   
3. MA3K
   
4. unxetas
   
5. jonnywilkinson
   
6. Roland
   
7. dt
   
8. stompy
   
9. Jon
   
10. mashton
    
11. htay That was me!
    
12. thisisrob (RJM)
    
13. brett
    
14. kowalski
    
15. edmundane
    
16. slamm
    
17. RPM
    
18. The Nimhbus
    
19. JOL
    
20. provenrad
    
21. Skullhead
    
22. flickwg
    
23. Sam
    
24. cougar(aidan)
    
25. stevo_com
    
26. OCD
    
27. BringMeMyFix
    
28. Big Daddy Wayne [hell yeah!]
    
29. Splatbucket
    
30. Onemagicru
    
31. Chris Crash
    
32. Sparky
    
33. Skoota
    
34. Object
    
35. lappiesza
    
36. B
    
37. Fixedwheelnut
    
38. J4mmd
    39.fixedfreak
    
39. ornmnt
    
40. andyp
    
41. Willski
    43.joelounge
    

RPM

they have to have tape, and they have to be drop handlebars. don't have to be "track" bars.

the main reason many will want a hire bike is simple..

Gear inches, children, Gear inches.

unless you want to prick around with small sprockets and (maybe) a bit of chain shortening.

(obviously 50:14 is already sorted)

an earlier conversation from this thread

Think it means 'no bare bars' rather than 'must be tape'...

you have to have tape or grips and bar end plugs

Hey bmmf
the UCI 6.7kg limit does actualy count on the track, most carbon frames are hard to get under it but some alloy ones do so they put coins down the seat tube to bring it back over the limit.

Shame im racing up north that day or i would have come and played

Lee

I meant it wouldn't give me as much advantage as it does going up hills - my forte.

I won't be doing any bona fide racing, but I've always got enough dried fruit and seeds and stuff in my bag to tip the scales if necessary. It would probably psyche out the other competitors as it rattled around inside my handlebars :)

Be good to see you down there if ooop North gets cancelled. You could be a human Derny for the rest of us :D

Hey there kids,
Just nice to see you all at HH. Had a great day even if I was not incrediby social.
jacqui

you were busy buying all the wheels and rims you could find...

I'm meeting a 'local track veteran' for drinks tonight so I'll (finally) post a provisional race programme tomorrow, then you lot can decide how you wanna race on the day...
And... I know there are a few LFGSS design projects on the go atm but who wants to get a proper poster/spoke card competition off the ground?
Also wanna pin down all the folks who've already said they're coming down to race/sell stuff on the day (Roberto/Jos/Scott/Smear/Broken77?), any ideas on who should hold the entry money (not me!)? PayPal? VB's bank account? Or just cash on the day? It'd be good to have some idea of how much cash the event'll generate for HH/VB's server costs...
This thing's only two months away, peoples!!! :o

Right... Met up with George from Brixton Cycles last night, his stepdad organises a lot of stuff down at HH, and he suggested we might enjoy the following (emphasis on fun races that lots of bods can take part in and good for novices):

• 3 lap bunched sprints
  
• Keirin
  
• 20 lap scratch race
  
• Handicap sprints w/ flying laps
  
• Unknown distance
  
• Hare and hounds
  Thoughts?
  

Sounds good, but 20 lap scratch race could get a bit hectic with people being lapped etc. I think there should probably be a rule about dropped/lapped riders just rolling round at the top of the banking, out of harm's way. Maybe?

Too many stickies, will re-sticky this two weeks before the event.

is that what an elimination race is? saw it in revolution oz. about 25 or so cyclists going around for about 20 laps. each lap the last person goes out. gets pretty exciting towards the end (for spectator but i guess it's exciting for the cyclist each lap)

that's devil takes the hindmost if i'm not mistaken

^ That's devil take the hindmost/the devil.

EDIT: Too slow... in the forum posting version of the devil.

maybee we should split some people into groups so its a bit fairer and its not the same people winning

Yeah the elimination or devil or devil takes the hindmost. I don't think it's that good for newer riders.
At the front might be ok but down the back when you're racing for the line, people always get boxed in and change lines to get over others to avoid elimination.
Seems to result in crashes more often than other races. Plus, if you're the first one out, your race is over. Boring.

I gather you need a helmet to ride on the track, i don't have one but i have one of these that my old man bought.......... is that ok?

http://www.branfordbike.com/images/helmet/hairnet2.jpg    

otherwise i'll just go get a helmet
cheers

To Teenslain: suggested events sound great, after watching some of the track racing championships last night its nice to see/ take part in varying styles of races be it long/short and with larger /lesser numbers.

can we get a one to two liner explaining the rules of each?

No. It's not a helmet and provides no protection whatsoever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Track_cycling#Race_formats

J4mmd can we get a one to two liner explaining the rules of each?

- Handicap sprints w/ flying laps: only crippled riders with the ability to fly need apply - Christopher Reeve always tended to clean up in this discipline.

- Unknown distance: always further than you feel like riding.

- Hare and hounds: since the supposed restrictions on fox hunting, the blood-thirsty toffs chase trackies instead; first rider to get caught is torn apart, and his blood is smeared on the winning rider's face.

HH is 450 metres long.
That needs to be taken into account if we are going to have fun races.

1 lap sprint is fine with me

i think a half lap rolling start on the sprints its good to get goin

1. teenslain
   
2. cornelius blackfoot
   
3. MA3K
   
4. unxetas
   
5. jonnywilkinson
   
6. Roland
   
7. dt
   
8. stompy
   
9. Jon
   
10. mashton
    
11. htay That was me!
    
12. thisisrob (RJM)
    
13. brett
    
14. kowalski
    
15. edmundane
    
16. slamm
    
17. RPM
    
18. The Nimhbus
    
19. JOL
    
20. provenrad
    
21. Skullhead
    
22. flickwg
    
23. Sam
    
24. cougar(aidan)
    
25. stevo_com
    
26. OCD
    
27. BringMeMyFix
    
28. Big Daddy Wayne [hell yeah!]
    
29. Splatbucket
    
30. Onemagicru
    
31. Chris Crash
    
32. Sparky
    
33. Skoota
    
34. Object
    
35. lappiesza
    
36. B
    
37. Fixedwheelnut
    
38. J4mmd
    39.fixedfreak
    
39. ornmnt
    
40. andyp
    
41. Willski
    43.joelounge
    
42. runtime
    
    

doing induction the saturday before
1 Chris Crash
2 Skullhead
3.Splatbucket
4.aido
5.Cornelius Blackfoot (if I haven't done the induction in the weeks previously)
6.flickwg, but i doubt i'll get my arse to hern hill that early in the morning

1. Object, provided I look at my diary and don't suffer froma an attack of apathy.
   
2. lappiesza (whatever happens)
   
3. runtime
   

How about an Olympic Sprint? Teams of 3, at the end of the first lap the front man pulls up high onto the banking leaving the rider behind to complete the next lap, then he pulls up allowing the final rider to complete a full lap. Fastest time wins. You normally have two teams on the track at a time, but it isn't necessary as the results are based on time.