• dogsballs older track frames are definitely slacker. geometry started to tighten up in late 60's as a guess. definitely tight in 70's, although some are still relaxed, like the no name dutch frame i ride as a commuter. track/path were drilled but also tended to have mudguard eyelets as well and pump bosses. but you could mix and match. i stuck to track because it had no eyelets. if i ran 27" wheels it would fill the forks, but track bikes tended to have tubs which are 622 or 700c, and clinchers of this era are 27" or 630. i'm about to build up some clincher 27" so will see how it looks.

    I was told that the main reason old track frames have such high clearances (and muguard eyes etc... if applicable) was because most ppl who brought them needed a bike to ride to work on as well (being as most ppl would only have one bike) so the track frame would have to suffice. Therefore a frame for road and track.

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