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@hippy
But you've not ridden them for ever.. :P
You lot can have your slanging match over hubs. How many miles have you ridden on Phils? How many miles have you ridden on Formula? Probably fuck all on boths counts so shuddup ya whinging the lot of yaz!
I've got Phils AND SystemEx and they both still work fine, the SysEx's having an unnecessary bearing replacement (£10) - it was the BB making the noise not the hub bearings.