Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

bracestower [quote]fatboyralph there are loads of alternatives out there for a jacket. but i think what lacks here are rapha's fixie

style shorts. 3qtrs available here are for mtb/commute, they dont look as smart as the rapha ones. surely there's a market here for those. i like what PCW's got or these http://www.bicyclefixation.com/prod_wool_knickers.html dont like the idea of wool tho...itchy and not really hardwearing. once saw a cool pair in the www, that sorta look like altered and shortened dickies/hardyakka/carhart trousers

The fixie shorts and winter hats are the only things I would consider buying from Rapha. Those Fixation ones are very nice, but dry clean only?? Not likely...

The Endura 3/4 look a bit too MTB for my liking. I'm after something a little smarter...any other suggestions anyone? Or is the £100+ Rapha ones (which I can't afford)?[/quote]

Go classic. Go plus fours / plus twos.