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@Stormy
sorry I didn't get to say hello, we weren't there long and I didn't see any fixeds, I bought a well used Concor saddle that looked just like one I used to have in 1981, I've tried ariones and toupes recently neither seem to suit me so when I saw an old favourite I couldn't resist it and when the bloke said £2 I could have kissed him, on walking round I saw another one in better condition but my son told me to put it back and 9 year olds are always right