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  • eeehhhh Got to remember though that more CO2 is emitted during the production of brand new car than in the lifetime of the car running on the roads.

    Made this point before, but studies vary wildly on this - most agree that way more is produced in use rather than in production, and factories are getting greener quickly

    That's not correct. There are plenty of renewable sources of energy, .

    Sure, and I'm all for them, but there's absolutely no way they will ever be able to produce energy on a scale to replace oil and coal, particularly with the massive increase in energy demand from India and China...

    But like I said, we should take this outside...

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