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Does anyone know how to get the expander out of an ancient Look fork (HSC 4)?

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Have you tried putting the bolt back in and giving it a little tap on the head?

Thanks, that did indeed do the trick after I worked up the courage to hit it hard enough. I’m not sure how best to go about getting the split ring out now.

Edit: turns out wiggling it out with a finger works ok. What’s the recommended aftermarket compression plug to replace this one?

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ancient Look fork

How ancient, is it 1", or 9/8"?

HSC4 - 9/8"

Yeah, 1 1/8”. Full frame pictured. I bought it in a moment of profound weakness but it might be fun I suppose. Though it does have this slight ‘ring of death’ on the steerer, which is very shallow (won’t catch a fingernail) but is there. Not great obviously but how concerned should I be?

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I'd used to bond a custom made long knurled aluminum sleeve with a tapped hole (for the stem cap compression) some distance from the top of the fork into used older carbon forks.
Bit over engineered, but I still have all my teeth. :)

Oh hey, I have one of those forks! Scored it for nothing - it had been junked, presumably had an incident on a roof rack; one dropout was severely bent. Bent it back, which required heaps of force, and then rode it for years.

My verdict - despite weighing fuck-all, these are tough as nails. Nice shape, too.

Wouldn't be concerned at all about the shiny ring from the headset collet.

I’ve been offered a look 585 with a full Campagnolo Record ti 10 speed group for a decent price - what do owners make of the 585? Any good?

what do owners make of the 585? Any good?

They're great once you allow for the fact that they're of their time and therefore won't take tyres bigger than 25mm.

I really enjoyed mine when I had it. Tester is obviously right too. A modern bike will be more practical, and do double check how the seat mast shortening had been done, if at all.

seat mast shortening

585 takes a normal 27.2mm round post.

This thing - I don’t need it but it’s a bit of a bargain I think - price of full build is less than I’d expect (but don’t fully understand due to disc brake market etc) to pay for almost total record ti 10 -

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Oh it's the 595 I'm thinking of. As you were!

Lot of people on here will get triggered about the bar angle.

Love that , my favourite groupset . Let me know if you get it and are splitting :)

Vanity post:

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585 was the best carbon bike I had (until Parlee) recommended. I vaguely recall the headset was proprietary, so have a check.
That one looks mint -mine failed at drive side dropout paint bubbling was the warning sign

I vaguely recall the headset was proprietary

"Proper" 585/585Ultra uses a standard headset, proprietary Headfit adjuster is on the 585 Optimum, 586 and 595. Replacement bearings seem to be readily available. It's obvious which is which as the Headfit collar/bearing cover is splined for an HT2 style BB tool for adjustment.

ETA: From the catalogues, it looks like the final year (2010) 585 Origin also got the Headfit

Ahha! Good to know - this Look is a different wheelset, flite saddle and bar angle away from perfect… I’ve got a potentially cracked Z4 that needs repairing as well - not sure how to spend the money…

Which is the mamil edition of the 585?

Which is the mamil edition of the 585?

Optimum

13.5k with Campy...

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that is quite toppy

3.5k more than DA for a groupset that's 1k more?

they have a 1GBP to 1 EUR conversion...

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