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  • Disc or rim brake?

    Also you sure it’s not a 55cm…plz

  • Its disc brake, post mount. Pretty sure it’s 53cm or 54cm at the most. I can double check

  • Not knocking the product but there is some dubious marketing in that article.

    Pretty certain that Gloria frames are made by Waltly or similar manufacturer (I’ve seen quite a few Waltly’s using this coupler arrangement) and there is nothing wrong with this per se, but they don’t use genuine S&S parts for the couplers so to have that linked in the article is a bit misleading. Even just looking at the pictures of the bike you can see the coupler looks different from the S&S ones.

    Also only mentioning Ritchey, No22 and Firefly as making travel bikes is a bit weird as the latter two are custom frame builders and there are other manufacturers that offer off the shelf coupler models like Co-motion cycles.

  • Does indeed look like they're using knock off s&s, not to mention a ritchey breakaway style seatpost clamp arrangement which I'm pretty sure is Ritchey patented and available on licence

  • Ritchey slapped Talbot Frameworks with a cease and desist pretty quick when they used the Ritchey breakaway seat cluster design on @Dammit 's red & white Tintin bike 5/6 years ago.

  • This is all disappointing, then - naughty Gloria!

  • TBF to Gloria, it can be very tricky to negotiate with Waltly directly if you're not certain about what you want and understand bicycle geometry. If they can handle the negotiations with them and smooth the process whilst still delivering a fairly cheap (for Ti!) frame then that's not a bad thing IMO. I also had my inkling about this a while ago as posted above.

    At least they don't take the mickey in terms of price for selling Waltly frames and will also provide UK based customer support if required.

    They should be more up front about this though.

  • Uh oh, pretty silly move then from Gloria to pay for sponsored content on one of the larger cycling websites.

  • Ah but with regards to the description of the Ritchey break-away portion of the frame they have actually been quite deliberate in avoiding referring to it as coming from Ritchey:

    "There is also a clamp on the seat tube. We use the seatpost as an internal structure within the seat tube as part of the clamping system. The seatpost is actually the part that is clamped. That way you have a very robust structure that doesn’t result in extra flex because essentially you have two tubes – the seatpost and the seat tube around it – reinforcing each other."

    Perhaps for the very reason of the patent? Which is why it seems strange that they then call the downtube coupler an S&S coupler when it clearly isn't an official one.

  • I'm pretty sure it's the mechanism of using a removable seatpost as a structural member via two clamps on separate frame parts which is what's patented. It's not just copyright so avoiding saying Ritchey or Breakaway won't get around it if you're still copying.
    But I don't really understand patents so I could be talking shit

  • However if I'm reading this right, the European patent expired in 2022
    https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1298046A3/en

  • Parents have a 20 year term, and that was filed in 2002. So, unless they've updated the design and filed for another patent. It's probably off patent.

  • Parents have a 20 year term

    That what I told her! Not getting out of this till I'm seventy, dammit

  • Ha been a patent attorney for 6 years and my phone still autocorrects it 🤔

  • Here's my Kinesis GFTi which was for sale on here & elsewhere for a while but offers were too low for me to part with it so it now lives at my Mum's in Surrey so that I don't have to bring a bike with me when I visit her.

    It's got 105 10 speed shifters and the XT 9- speed rear mech that shifts with road 10 speed so a nice wide range of gears for the Surrey hills which I used to manage on 42x23 when I first took this up a few decades ago. Very glad I kept it, only frustration with it is the vast amount of space in the calipers for bigger tyres when the frame and forks limit this to 28mm, maybe 30mm at a pinch. Shame Kinesis didn't max out the tyre clearance when they designed as they'd have been ahead of the wide tyres on the road trend with little impact on the handling and weight of the frame.


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