The fall of the Tory party

So many want Boris Johnson back, this review of his book by Ian Dunt is pretty good https://inews.co.uk/culture/unleashed-boris-johnson-review-3308696?srsltid=AfmBOopLKpkS-XV_7ePsk4QCF1-fyV2Rdpqfc_ZUHUfRl_ezCdMJ2qzi

Funny though, that there’s a reasonable chance that a brown person could be replacing the current brown person as leader of the conservatives. Could never see that in Labour, has anyone even come close?

Diane Abbott

srs answer; Lisa Nandy

Badenoch and Jenrick. Holy shit.

42 for Kemi Badenoch
41 for Robert Jenrick
37 for James Cleverly

JC down 2

Indeed.. looking forward to Kemi's energy at PMQ

Very surprised.

Badenoch a shoo-in with the membership then? Media interviews will be fun... She erupts when asked the most basic of questions or to explain anything.

they really have fucked themselves haven't they.

The whole mess from Brexit to Johnson to Truss to now Badenoch or Jenrick is entirely of their own making.

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Please make it Badcock! she’s unhinged and it will be fun to watch her implode.

I’d have thought that Badenoch was too unstable for the Tory members, maybe not. But could they bring themselves to vote for a black woman?

My theory, to be checked against actual votes, is that the moderate Tory MPs miscalculated. Tugger’s votes went to Jenrick to thwart Badenoch, while some of Jenrick’s votes went to Badenoch to counteract, and they both sailed past Cleverly. This can’t have been their plan, there were easily enough One Nation MPs to put one of their favoured candidates in the final two.

I think the members just see her being angry at everything and everyone and think that's where they are.

I for one welcome the Conservative party into their Corbyn years of permaopposition.

Members will instinctively want to vote for the white man, but will recoil from the rumours that he's secretly planning to take the party 'back to the centre' (when were they ever there?)

They’ll be popping corks in Libdem HQ

If Kemi gets it, I’ll have to officiate at another poxy election…..

I've commented for a shift to labour/libdems/greens as major parites before but if the Tories could shift to the centre and become a useful part of politics that is surely a good thing as opposed to the shit show they currently are. If the Tories disappear all right leaning voters would have to go to reform due to lack of other options. That would be worse, in my opinion.

People can't deal with that cognitive dissonance.

The tories will never disappear. They’re part of the establishment in this country and as long as the elites exist they’ll need a party to represent them. Reform doesn’t do that.

The question is where do the centre right go, and is the answer the Lib Dem’s or the Greens?

Labour!

I think many have, but there will be others who could never bring themselves to vote for socialism and will need another home.