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• #8326
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• #8327
Harry kane looks like he's been self face punching for 30 years
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• #8328
They're so out of touch. Tories wouldn't shop at Waitrose, it's expensive and good quality. A proper Tory likes to appear wealthy, while at the same time ensuring they keep asking much of their money in their own pocket as possible.
Tesco Finest range, at best.
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• #8329
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• #8330
Has she been in a fire?
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• #8331
Please not Waitrose!
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• #8332
Another one of the same genre:
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• #8333
I love that they just can’t understand why no one wants to vote for them. Post defeat the recriminations are going to go on for aeons.
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• #8334
I think they totally do understand but the cult demands continual gaslighting of everyone else
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• #8335
There's an interesting point in there about the cult of personality and shortsightedness (of five yearly election cycle) that our politics has currently, but it's buried deep.
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• #8336
The instant deflection to that question is “you’ll regret it when labour get in” or some variation on the theme that however bad the Tories are you have to vote for them because Labour are worse.
One chap I spoke to a couple of years ago said that Labour had always left the country worse off than when they got into power, something which the current Tory administration has very much said “hold my beer” to.
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• #8337
I like to think this is deeply routed entitlement, you MUST vote for us, w're the natural party of power, or at least a Gov in waiting. It's what we deserve, you owe us your votes etc.
Love to see them pushed into third, so they don't have the advantages of being the official opposition, ie just like all the other smaller parties. I think then their elderly membership and aged support comes into play if they have to slug it out with the rest.
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• #8338
so they don't have the advantages of being the official opposition, ie just like all the other smaller parties
And all their current leadership candidates suffering the indignity of not being invited to interview or offer opinions and struggling to get any airtime, because they're no longer the alternative to turn to.
They'll have to run their next election campaign by jumping off padel boards and sliding down water slides just to get attention.
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• #8339
The intensity, the anger, the Maoist weirdness: if they could, they’d have killed him.
Eh?
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• #8340
Thanks for that link.
She often comes across as human on HIGNFY.
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• #8341
Why are we treating a prime minister like this? He’s made terrible mistakes — he mostly deserves it
Kinda answered yer own question there m8
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• #8342
And all their current leadership candidates suffering the indignity of not being invited to interview or offer opinions and struggling to get any airtime, because they're no longer the alternative to turn to.
I guess this is my point — it’s so engrained in press culture, would this actually happen? Given the volatility of elections I suspect the Conservatives would still ultimately be the opposition in the eyes of much of the media.
Edit: sorry I thought I was in the other thread
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• #8343
I'm not especially conspiracy minded, but it's hard not to look at the level of continuous fuck ups and wonder if there is a cohort within the Conservative Party that is looking for a monumental defeat to knock down and build back in one guise or another.
Can they really be this incompetent? I'd usually say yes, but it's like the whole thing is being run by a pissed Nicola Murray.
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• #8344
I find it difficult to believe they'd be so well coordinated at being so collectively terrible.
but then again, maybe that's what they want us to think 🤔
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• #8345
Doesn't it all give a little credence to the allegations that they've been in permanent campaigning mode for years and struggle with actual policy making? Seems they don't know who they really are anymore either.
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• #8346
My thinking was that it doesn't need to be that coordinated, just a bit of constant sabotage.
Like get one person to put a bet on and mention it to a couple of people so that it's known. Unfortunately they're all such fuckwhits that the idea gains traction and they all have a flutter.
I think I've convinced myself out of it. But still. How are they this bad? They can't even bitchslap everyone involved and demonstrate a bit if leadership.
But if you haven't been able to grow a pair in the last 2yrs it's not like you'll do it now.
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• #8347
I think they’ve locked into a state where what they want is power, but they don’t know what to do with it other than to keep it, whilst transferring money to their mates.
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• #8348
Having policies is something that is now pretty foreign to them.
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• #8349
Can they really be this incompetent?
Yes. Sunak only ever looked competent in the context of the other freaks who were all that was left (and willing to serve) after Johnson's coup. He had to present himself as more reasonable than Liz Truss after replacing her, but his politics and attitude have always been pretty close to hers.
Human beings (and the press in particular) have this tendency to show respect to people who achieve positions in a hierarchy no matter how unsuitable they are. Jacob Rees Mogg was an eccentric fringe politician till Johnson gave him a job, suddenly he was an elder statesman of the Tory party; so it goes. But the decades-long fight over Europe in the Tory party only left the weirdo freaks standing. They've always been weirdo freaks and they're in charge.
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• #8350
I imagine anyone vaguely competent was sacked or left during the cult of Johnson. That get rich quick con-artist Shapps has had so many top jobs shows the state they're in, in terms of talent and seriousness. Add to that Sunak's inability to do politics, relate to other humans or, ironically, stick to a plan and it seems this is where they end up.