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  • it was this Escape Collective podcast https://pca.st/episode/2145799a-432e-4e9­7-b398-12654ad841e5

    At 38 mins the Gebiomized bike fitter talks about Dura Ace being updated in 2023. The lever/hood was longer. So the riders' hands moved further forward. So the shoulder angle changed. 8 out of 10 riders moved their pelvis forward and got saddle discomfort. So their saddles were moved forward.

    What he doesn't say is whether the adjustments imposed by the new hoods might justify a shorter top tube or stem or crank length...

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