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Learning tyre limit is something people dedicate a lot of time to.
Gotta say learning what a front tyre skid feels like and then learning to consistently control it has to be one of the most difficult parts of dirt riding. You just never want to lose traction when braking, and on the green lanes it’s a constant.
I still haven’t done a track day, but I have felt the rear step out enough times on the road to keep me honest. Massive respect for people who can control that and exploit it.
pdlouche-
100% agree. On road applies too. On the Twin, when it the rear kicks, I have mad respect for those who ride big CC on the limit and dance with the rear.
@Jung Never thought this was a 'thing' till I hit the deck a few times, then its a completely alternate learning curve to what I had when starting out. Incremental leaps that don't teach you to how to be pro, but how to push your own personal limits. Never you against the clock or the speedo, but you against terrain.
Of all the facets of riding that still pucker my arsehole to the limit, it's on the limit braking. There's progression like other aspects of riding, but proper on track scared me, and it was a leaning experience for the road.@Ramsaye I'd go as far as rescinding what I said as I agree with the skilled rider aspect. I saw someone emergency endo in the rain the other day at Dalston junction. I was in awe.
@konastab01 I'm afraid that you're part of a very niche segment of rider and that doesn't apply to most. It's you VS your environment vs you and other road users/infrastructure.
@lynx Hitting road furniture is correlation, not causation in regards to ABS effectiveness.
None of us have to like it, but ABS works faster than the majority of us can when it comes to real world usage. End of. We have so much stimulus, so much engaging our brain, that when the one moment we might have to go full fist, we might not be thinking about progressive braking including thinking time.
Mechanical complexities aside, ABS has been proven to be good at one thing on road and one thing only. Giving users an extra redundancy when panic occurs.,By the way, none of my bikes have ABS. @PhilDAS knows what's up.
TL:DR ABS IS GREAT BECAUSE WE'RE HUMANS AND WE PANIC.
Chak
100% disagree. Unless you're a track veteran or a dirt fiend, 95% of riders aren't gonna beat ABS. Not a chance.
Learning tyre limit is something people dedicate a lot of time to. Most people aren't simply gonna do that.
@lynx Yes. ABS is better than the majority of us. Unless you spend weekends replicating Toprak, you're not better than ABS. This is a not even open for contention. The limit is NOT skill. The limit day to day riding is attention span. When shit comes out at you out of nowhere, the limiting factor is your reaction. Is ABS likely to save you more so than your skill and reaction time day to day? I'd say 100%