The fall of the Tory party

https://nitter.net/behavinaint/status/1542614164824260609?s=46&t=v8mVJToGE_oslVixZ0eVkQ&fbclid=PAAaYS7YxPPf-d8qvPSdecW9Jui1MLbKp2GWgjh6iJ8iEaKeRdE0m4EuOccg8

Thanks 👍

Will be interesting to see if Reform do put forward a decent number for the election. I reckon Farage can smell blood. No point standing aside and the Tories still losing. Might as well help decimate the Conservative Party, then sweep in to take over the remains.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/03/tory-mps-pleading-with-reform-uk-not-to-stand-against-them-in-election

If Farage smells anything it will be the chance to grift - expect some sort of deal/hedge to bring loads of cash to himself for doing nothing more than running his mouth off

You're probably right. Actually being leader of a major party sounds like real work, although Boris turned it into a monster grift and appears to be loaded now. We'll have to wait and see.

I can't see Reform taking a single seat, however they will split the Fash vote.

This is my hope: take enough votes to guarantee the tory demise but not quite enough to retain their deposits.
How much debt are the brownshirts in at the moment? Was just shy of a million last time I checked.
Do they have any major donors yet?

The last thing Farage wants is to have to do any actual work, he just wants power/Tories as his sock puppets with no responsibility so zero/few MPs would suit him fine especially if, like in 2019, he gets candidates to pay/denote to stand (non refundable, obviously).

I can see Reform giving it the big one then standing down almost everywhere at the last minute as they feel that they can work to hold the socialist Tories “feet to the fire” (a favourite Farage BS phrase) against the Marxist extremes of Labour who will culturally and economically pillage the country (or some such guff).

I have an acquaintance who has said that he’s planning to stand for Reform. I knew that there was something a bit askew about him but when he said that it all fell into place. It did help when he started about immigration and I asked him if he objected in principle to my wife? I wasn’t completely convinced by his response….

Do they have any major donors yet?

Some dodgy Russian, I should think.

As far as we know reform has zero infrastructure and very few candidates selected, it’ll end in a shit show of Facebook racist etc, not that’s necessarily a problem for them.

As far as we know reform has zero infrastructure

They have an absolute army of bots and sock puppet accounts on TikTok and Instagram though 🙄😑

Probably not a popular opinion on this thread but a knighthood for Tim Martin doesn't seem that terrible relatively speaking.

Like them or not, Wetherspoons are generally decent community pubs often in nice buildings that would have ended up being turned into flats otherwise and by all accounts working there isn't too bad.

It's obviously largely due to his Brexit views and there are certainly others that are more deserving but compared to other recent knighthoods it doesn't seem anything to get too excited about.

Exactly, he was knighted for his loud Brexit supporting views, little to do with his business acumen.

Mind you, Michelle Mone was enobled for her business skills, said business went bust less than two years later but I hear that she’s done ok since.

The whole thing stinks and I’m not for giving Father Jack Tim Martin a free pass

Sounds like we have to put up with this shower of cunts till october.

He declined to rule out a May election categorically, but repeated his intention to go for later in the year.

May it'll be then

Labour should start on the bottling it messaging. Rishi's scared to take it to the people.

I wouldn’t place any weight whatsoever on Sunak’s statement today, it was made purely as a gambit to push Starmer’s speech down the page.

I can well believe that Sunak wants to hit the two year mark as PM though.

Everything points to them wanting to go in May, there is no other reason for them rushing through the cut in NI, wanting people to see there take home pay go up before they loss it all again with the tax band freezers. Also holding the spring budget earlier than normal. That being said, if there still 20 points behind at the end of March they'll just kick the can down road until the King has to issue an eviction notice on No10.

There's a 100k households coming off there fixed term mortgages a month, a summer of half descent weather than the small boat crossing will go up. It's only going to get worse for them

half descent weather

does that mean rain trickling from the skies?

I believe the word that the Sainted Margaret liked was “frit”

Sunak said his 'working assumption' is that there'll be an autumn election, almost as if he doesn't get to decide.

Such a shit PM, he couldn't lead a horse to water, never mind a country. Or a political party.

Interesting blog from Nick Tyrone, who basically argues that Sunak should call an election as soon as possible as it would a) catch Labour out and mean they might be short of funding and b) potentially neutralise the Farage threat.

https://nicktyrone.substack.com/p/this-week-in-brexitland-january-4

Its just clinging on, and annoying every cunt as he's just another useless waste of time.

Min he's out, he will piss off to america or something.

Still fancy May 2nd with the Local and London Mayoral elections.

If he doesn't go then, risks a really bad night, looking unelectable nationally a summer of boats,being called frit and lots of pressure building up. Also I think people are going to get pissed off with a 5 month long phoney capaign over the summer before the actual campaign and could take it out on him and tories.

So May 2nd?

May 2nd? As in the date?