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  • So you don’t read certain publications, is this on moral grounds? But you would like someone else to do it for you and then report back?

  • The ice hockey video is very easy to find. I was expecting to see that the cut happened when the victim was lying on the ice. But he was upright in a normal skating position. In other words the other player somehow managed a flying kick with his skates at least 5' above the ice.

  • That is what I thought, hence the tragic accident press comment.

  • He used it in the context of "everybody was afraid to speak up during Stalin's regime"

    I feel like either I'm missing something or you are. I haven't seen the source, but what is contradictory about being in favour of free speech and referencing the lack of it during the Soviet era?

  • Isn't Azelia Banks mentally ill? Like unstable to the point where the humane thing would be to just leave her alone. If she has recovered, good on her. But not applauding the decision to put her on the front cover and create more stress in her life.

  • Just heard the prime ministers speech from today...so we are changing laws that stop us from deporting people to Rwanda. Also we will over rule the court of human rights that the UK started.

  • Isn't Azelia Banks mentally ill?

    Yeah, but she's got a big problem with the Irish, so she can get fucked.

  • Pure theatre. Flights aren't taking off in Spring or any other season.

  • JP isn't exactly stable is he? Hasn't he had a load of experimental treatment?

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMreQMAPTpo&lc=UgwA_dfHGAVad615K554AaABAg

    Here is the speech cos it's only fair.

    but what is contradictory about being in favour of free speech and referencing the lack of it during the Soviet era?

    Well it is one hell of a sliding scale comparison from "my granddad was in the government of the oppressor and a pure totalitarian awful regime where barely anybody could say anything and even Stalin's doctor did not dare to come in so he died of a heart attack" to "JK Rowling cannot be called a transphobe because sometimes words can harm people".

    I mean Braverman used her "free speech" as well and look at what that did.

    I am a bit wary of people not being part of an oppressed group going "but free speech" I totally agree sometimes it goes wrong, like when ex-muslims cannot speak at a uni because of groups complaining "that is islamophobia" (what?) but there has been a lot of awful politicians and others dogwhistling and inciting and that is just fine, or something.

    Now you will say: "that is not a pure argument, you should look at the merit and play the ball and not the man" and yes sure, but this discussion does not happen in a vacuum as if we are all IDK going to be reasonable human beings and "immigrants break the NHS" doesn't lead to Brexit or something.

    At the same time, a free press is super important and we kinda don't have one? And lack of accountability is pissing many people of?

    I guess I am just tired of all the low quality free speech but maybe with social media and lack of proper press funding it was always going to be this way :)

  • Do you have a link? Couldn't find it last night.

  • Fucking ell, not really what I was expecting for some reason. Absolutely brutal and looks pretty intentional from that clip.

  • Not what I was expecting either, the perpetrator gets checked, after that it’s hard to tell, I’m not an ice hockey player so I wouldn’t want to comment on what might or might not be an unnatural action.

  • This whole Rwanda situation is just getting more and more absurd. Why can’t the government just accept is a horrific plan and benefits no one. It must be costing a fortune.

    But no even after it was ruled unlawful. They’re still going for it.

    🫶🏻 cunts gonna cunt.

  • Read this the other day, terrible story and I actually stopped halfway through reading it, shocked at the sheer cuntishness of the woman involved;

    “ McDonnell did not stop after hitting the garda and she drove home with her windscreen smashed and with a flat tyre.

    The court heard that when McDonnell got home, her partner discovered the severed foot still wedged into the front of the car…”

    Hope she gets a big fucking slap from the judge

    https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2023/1114/1416449-limerick-court/

  • They know that they can't actually "stop the boats" but they've got too tied up in that to admit it.

    So, they need to find a scapegoat for why they can't do it and the Rwanda plan which will never come into force due to lefty lawyers is perfect for explaining their failure.

  • Listening to a few different commentators yesterday I thought the following were interesting points:

    1. The plan was conceived as part of "operation save big dog" - ie it's roots are in capturing the news cycle
    2. The government have known all along that they could have improved the strength of their case by signing a treaty with Rwanda with enough teeth to hold them to account for deficiencies in their asylum system. They chose not to do this and have lost (probably) as a result.

    It's almost like it's a joke that's got out of hand.

    Basically though, I think it's been kept live by 3 different camps:

    • those who want it for performative effect
    • those who see it as a strategic move to exit the ECHR
    • those who are so fucking basic they thing it's a credible plan were they only allowed to do it
  • Probably because they love the cruelties administered by the Australian government so much. Some inhumane "offshore solution" to "stop the boats" is right from that play book. Never mind the financial and human cost.

  • Also, once you can "stop the boats" by deporting people to a country that is potentially as bad as the one they left or shoving them on an island you can use the whole thing as a political football to beat the other side with.

    Either getting it for allowing the cruelty (we wouldn't do that sort of thing if we were in power) or not being cruel enough (how dare you release those permanently locked up prisoners due to a supreme court ruling).

  • Prudent observers will note there are no more people offshore at Nauru or Christmas Island. The cost to the taxpayer of all of this was astronomical with very questionable benefits.
    The only people that benefited were the fat cats running the private contracting companies that ran the camps.

  • The only people that benefited were the fat cats running the private contracting companies that ran the camps.

    So another ✅ in the pro column for the tories.

  • Gotta help a brother out, right?

  • Exactly this

  • They could stop the boats tomorrow, by creating safe routes for people seeking asylum to enter the country.

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