The fall of the Tory party

She's got her front pages today. I think she's in danger of over playing her hand. If she wants to take over after the election she can't be seen as a reason for the election loss.

She doesn't have the numbers to even get a confidence vote, let alone win it. the majority of tories know they can't change again before the election.

Exactly. With regard to the confidence vote it is also a question of Tory tattered credibility being further shredded if they have yet another confidence vote

All timed quite nicely for the tories with the inflation drop news this morning.

I for one feel like the ship is steady now....(in the same way a shipwreck is steady on the ocean floor)

I wonder if there's going to be any news in what Cameron's been up to recently? Foreign office refusing to confirm what jobs he's given up to take this job, and even whether he's been working for foreign governments.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/15/david-cameron-urged-to-disclose-the-jobs-he-gave-up-to-make-cabinet-return

It's such a weird appointment anyway, but I imagine there's a way that it can start to look quite bad if the news of how Cameron's been shilling himself around the past few years and then made a Lord starts to take hold.

All timed quite nicely for the tories with the inflation drop news this morning.

I think they've badly miss judged these pledge, if Sunak does a victory lap because inflation falls to 5% the average person in the street thinks that means cheaper prices, they end up feeling conned, again.

Eton oops, flu brain.

It may be it was collateral damage, but Suella's letter also made sure no-one was talking about Kemi Badenoch in Florida

Supreme court judge shooting down Suella's claims about ECHR being the problem. But that will be conveniently ignored by the press.

Ok, so I probably overstated it. But she was pissed off about not making a single front page. And, in my opinion, it has made her (and the others who wrote it) go OTT with the letter. She could well have overplayed it, as HousecatHST has said, and I reckon she will be tainted by being at the heart of the rift in the party - edit: and now she will be tainted by the Rwanda judgement, as it specifically cites that her proposed solution was a load of crap.

Looking at the opening comments there is no way the government is going to win the Rwanda case.

And they haven’t.

lol. 30 point gap

Turns out the pig fucker isn’t as popular as they’d hoped.

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And this is even before today's circus. My word.

Why aren't they 40 points ahead, etc, etc... ;)

I know I shouldn't be shocked, but the frothing lunatics currently governing the country happily saying we should get rid of Human Rights legislation is sooo fucked up. These are fundamental internationally agreed rights for everyone - it shouldn't even be open to discussion. Do they not hear what they are saying? Horrific cunts.

They know what they are saying and that is why they are horrific cunts.

And that's with Starmer making a bit of a cunt of it too.

May aswell call a GE now but they won't.

Imagine supporting happily giving up your own human rights in order to sToP tHe bOatS.
I think people feel so cosy in their position that it's never occurred to them they might need them one day.

"What was David Cameron's finest foreign policy achievement?" at PMQs just now - brilliant!

Labour can make him their own "Corbyn" to be brought up at any and all opportunity and the best bit he isn't allowed to be in the chamber to ever defend himself.

Too many apparently. So good.

Have any of the Truss/Braverman loonies started a "Bringing Cameron back is part of a secret remainer plot to reverse Brexit" conspiracy theotry, yet? If not, maybe somebody could nudge them that way.

Labour can make him their own "Corbyn"

That was Liz Truss's job!

Fuck me, Sunak appears to be doubling down on the Rwanda stuff, even trying to spin it as a win when it clearly wasn’t.

He’s a graceless, odious twat, isn’t he.

Reform UK at 11%? More than the Lib Dems?

I wouldn't trust that polling. I've never heard of People Polling and from what I can find out they seem to have at least some link to GB News.

BUT I WANT TO BELIEVE

Don't take this away from me.