Tubeless Tyres -"saying the same things about tubeless tyres over and over again" Hippy read the first f**king post

After reading a few pages in this thread, I'm thinking a couple of things...

First, kind of glad I'm not a bike mechanic anymore; this tubeless faff was just coming along, and it was about as much fun as trying to eliminate creaks.

But mainly, people must really hate patching a tube. Never found it that much of a bother myself, except for when stuff like snug mudguards or stupid cheap hub motors hardwired to the bike make removing the rear wheel an epic mission.

I fucking love tubeless

It has worked for me mountain biking for years now. It’s not that I never get punctures but they reseal and I can just carry on.

On road bikes generally punctures did seal, and the ones that didn’t seal were cases where the tyre was so damaged it needed replacing anyway as it would have been a liability with a tube in.

Installation has become easier and I have been able to do the last few with a plain track pump and not needed a charger pump or compressor.

Advantages lower pressure, more grip, chance of pinch flats is negligible, and most penetrative punctures get sealed automatically, not needing inner tubes. My emtb even has cushcore inserts which can be ridden when flat. So I don’t even need to carry an inner tube.

Disadvantages you need proper tubeless tyres rims, tape and sealant.

Now you know you still need to carry tubes to avoid having to do the walk of shame.

I’m not sure if it was any better than just flatting and changing a tube.

It's not. That is why road tubeless is dumb.

Disadvantages you need proper tubeless tyres rims, tape and sealant.

Higher cost, don't work at high pressure, you also need dynaplugs, you still need to carry a tube, still need to top up sealant (ie. more maintenance than tubed tyre) and the valves will eventually clog, you probably need a new pump or air compressor or some fucking stupid coke bottle injector bodge, you will hate your life whenever you have to install a new tyre, etc.

The REAL best thing about tubeless is I don't feel less of a man just taking my bike to a shop now and going "please install these tyres, I'm not ready to cover my carpets in jizz this weekend" and leave it with the shop to deal with. That is the one true benefit of tubeless.

Higher cost, yes but golf club
don't work at high pressure, no longer road cycling
you also need dynaplugs, less bother than an inner tube and quicker
you still need to carry a tube, not if using inserts
still need to top up sealant (ie. more maintenance than tubed tyre) but at lower pressure needs less pumping up
and the valves will eventually clog, only once has a valve blocked and a poking device cleared it
you probably need a new pump or air compressor or some fucking stupid coke bottle injector bodge, as mentioned up thread not had to use any fancy installation stuff for a couple of years
you will hate your life whenever you have to install a new tyre, it’s been over ten years since I struggled to install tubeless, but I’ll admit the cushcore inserts were a bastard to install but I now have their installation tools for next time

Glad to see we're still saying the same things about tubeless tyres over and over again.

Anyway, here is a tubeless 25c disc setup out for a winter ride.

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Anyway, here is a tubeless 25c disc setup out for a winter ride, right before it exploded and required the fire brigade's jaws of life to free me from the jizzy mess

Oh dear!

Sounds hot

Road tubeless users...

Likely, the entire disc is filled with sealant... A trap for anyone that runs me over.

I’m probably going to regret this, but is there a forum go to sealant? It’s that time of year that the summer wheels are getting hung up and the winter ones are coming out. I’ve just used the last of my Mucoff shite. So????

Are schwable g one a tubless only tyre? Could I fit them with tubes and would there be any puncture protection?

I ask as have got a set with a bike I bought but the wheels aren't tubeless so deciding what to do.

you can always run a tubeless tyre with tubes, the only negative effect is that if the rim is also tubeless the tyre may be tricky to get off/on

Haven't got tubeless rims.

Wondering if they are better to sell and get something else.

i rate them v highly personally, but they don't have any built-in protection particularly so i guess it depends how much that matters.

They work perfectly fine with tubes. My partner commuted daily on them for about 2 years without a puncture

Stans

Cheers @hippy you’re the 3rd person to suggest them, I’ll order some when I get home.

Stan's for me, it has sealed everything that has been thrown at it including a massive hawthorn that I had to remove because it was still attached to a branch.

I have used slime in road motorbike and cars. After a puncture been found.

Or the orange stuff from Wilko was brilliant too...rip
Cycles, no experience.
@Chaley not hippy

Oh have seen some sealant fails ripped tyre fails where the tyre has had it 2-3 cm tear and nothing will save that.

Leaky joint on DT Swiss G540. I’ve never done tubeless before, is this common?

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With pinned DT rims, yes. I solved mine with a dab of CA glue on the inside of the hook.

Anyone tried Silca ultimate (the sealant with carbon strands in it)?
I have heard it “just works” from mechanics experienced in tubeless and that sounds a lot better than “Hippy’s carpet bukkake” of yesteryear.

Caveat, I haven’t used tubeless on anything but am seriously thinking for gravel bike but also wondering for road bike (28c and 70psi) the days of riding 23c at 120psi on t’road have gone.

Basically 28 and under aint worth bothering with is the consensus if you read all this thread ………….