Wiggle are being Nobs

Got a couple of thing to return, risky?

Yes. Give it a few days but you may be out of luck there.

Mike Ashley buy out? Seems what happens these days to retailers.

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They are planning to trade out of it, prove they can be a stable business and look for a buyer (Mike Ashley lol). Buying should be OK with some sense ie credit card. Assume that returns should be OK but definitely an element of risk there.
Was actually thinking about snapping up one of the bike bargains, but no CTW so that's killed that idea.

Do people just look at Wiggle/CRC out of habit or are they actually showing up when searching for cheapest price for some item? I've not bought from them for ages because they are always beaten by someone else it seems and I have no loyalty to them, like I do with SJS or my lbs or whatever.

Seems odd that such a big name can fail and yet Specialized can still sell £10k road bikes.

The Black Friday deals seem to be just the same discounts they had on (Grey?) Thursday.
I was hoping to pick over their corpse for bargains….I mean help them out of their sad situation.

I’ve had some proper bargains of late from Wiggle. For me they have to be significantly cheaper as I don’t like them and their returns.

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Maybe they heard me re: slagging them off about Haribo, but I cannot get their website to load properly at the moment

High street’s ded, LBS’s are fukt and Wiggle is going under? Shit’s wild.

But Rent is going up.

Evans are apparently moving to a mostly online model with subscriptions for servicing in local repair centres. A bit like Halfords Auto Centres. Grim if true.

As soon as Wiggle stopped free returns, I stopped using them. I can understand they want to dissuade you but why not bring in a return limit instead of a fee.

This little peculiarity always makes me smile a little when I see the wiggle returns address.

I ordered some stuff from Wiggle yesterday which arrived today - free post and quicker than usual.
Haribo was included.

That would be too easy to manipulate.

Irked me at first but the cost of processing it, loss in postage two ways etc, must be crippling. We should all stop buying shit online without being sure. Hard I know when you can’t try stuff on.

Their £10/year service still gives you free returns tho and free next day delivery.

We should stop, you're absolutely right. Are we going to though?

the cost of processing it, loss in postage two ways etc, must be crippling

Not as crippling as running an actual shop with changing rooms where you can try stuff on. Accepting returns just because people don't like stuff when they get it in their hands is a cost of doing business which should be factored into overall pricing, it's only the return postage which is optional under UK and EU distance selling regulations, so offering free returns is an added value proposition which will live or die by the will of the market.

We should stop

Why? There is a separate question about the sustainability of the tat people buy online, but the fact of buying online rather than going to the shops looks like the more efficient method, even allowing for a certain amount of reverse traffic.

Valid point. (First one. Less sure on second).

'Separate question about the sustainability'...... that's exactly the question.

No, they really are two different questions, the type of things we buy and the way we buy them. If online was inefficient, it wouldn't be so much cheaper than going to the shops. They are linked, insofar as the horrible cheap tat which has the planet destroying potential seems to exist only because of the efficiency of online retail, but we could have a few nice sustainable things delivered to us if we asked nicely. Reducing the volume of product delivered to end users seems to further favour online over physical shops.

If your proposition is that forceably eliminating online would make us go to the shops to buy our smaller rations, you're in danger of going down the path of Ostalgie which caused Margarita Simonyan to wonder aloud
whether nuking Siberia might not be such a bad idea

I should've been clearer perhaps, that was my question.

Who the fuck would let Evans service their bike!?