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100%, though the last big carpark fire in the UK wasn't...

It's just the obvious lack of fact checking of it being a charging EV when there aren't any chargers in that car park. Too late to take back the misinformation now...

On the Beeb now

Fire likely started in a diesel car - fire chief

Fire chief Andy Hopkinson says it is thought the fire started with a diesel car, and then spread through the car park.

#bringbackrep

Electric cars don't need to be on charge to catch fire
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Well obviously.

But as @Fox just linked, it looks like it wasn't an EV... proving my point that misinformation is super unhelpful.

There we go. Wonder if Sky will dedicate any airtime to walking back their claims.

Still doesn’t rule out a diesel fire spreading to an EV/hybrid triggering a battery fire that then went viral across the car park.

Let the anti EV speculation continue.

But think of the negative impact on share prices and social cachet.

Maybe all of the EVs in the garage ganged up on the poor little diesel car and they should be tried as arsonists.

How does this situation work from an insurance perspective? If they identify the vehicle, would the single insurer be paying out for the lot?

Probably not unless negligence can be shown.

For the Liverpool car park fire linked above, the insurance claims were individual despite an at fault vehicle being identified.

Saw Stew at the Jokes and Spokes charity gig for the Bike Project.

Got to love the unchecked rumours on Twitter of an EV fire whilst charging despite it being the wrong carpark for EV chargers.

I think it's famed not because Nazis used the defense of Superior Orders specifically, but because it represents a principle of international law which was widely recognised at the end of WW2, and which is critical to ensuring the good conduct of militaries. You can find references to this kind of situation in the Talmud. Still, rulings on this kind of matter remain inconsistent.

I think if you object you have to go to jail. But yes, there are options for refuseniks.

The North crossed the border first, it's true, but it is also a lot more complicated than that because the South was conducting extensive pogroms on its territory while loudly proclaiming that they were going to fuck the North up. There's a good podcast about it, Blowback series 3 IIRC.

Would second the plug for Blowback which definitely paints the Korean War as a lot messier than is commonly portrayed

Sounds like a podcast worth listening to, thanks for the recommendation.

The Korean War was hugely complicated, my point was that the previous poster compared Palestine’s plight with North Korea, and how North Korea is hesitant to engage. They are still technically at war, and as far as I know, South Korea aren’t occupying or oppressing anything.

Also prior to 1950, South Korea was battling significant North Korean backed insurgency, large numbers of North Korean guérilla fighters fighting out of the South Korean mountains and internal rioting and uprisings. Tension was crazy high.

Why was a council building flying and Israel flag in the first place!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/11/protesters-scale-sheffield-town-hall-remove-israeli-flag

Probably took the lead from Central Government projecting the flag onto Westminster the other day.

Grim.

The decision to fly the Israeli flag was made after a request from central government, both Sheffield City Council and Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-67075181

I see now it's not limited, I've not read the news much.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/11/israeli-flags-adorn-eu-buildings-after-hamas-attacks-is-the-bloc-united

Grim indeed. And showing a Palestinian flag isn't support of Hamas. It's solidarity. You simply can't put an Israeli flag on a government building and support their government actions.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/11/why-are-some-of-the-left-celebrating-the-killings-of-israeli-jews

Because...cunts. Pure and simple.