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• #6352
Yeah nerves professional right? Can’t seem to find anything online about hetchins making a frame with them, so I think possible a copycat frame
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• #6353
http://www.hetchins.org/bogus-08.htm "While a few Hetchins are known with Nervex lugs, they are very few in number."
Forks is using a twin plate lug which does not seems to be nervex, but that is ok, it was common to use another brand for the fork crown.
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• #6354
But condor from late 50's, beginning 60's were also having nervex and similar (but different) fork crown...
https://www.isambards.co.uk/product-details/20112521520001yss1
It seems that they help identifying originals: http://www.hetchins.org/100.htm
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• #6355
Thanks that’s useful info. Will reach out
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• #6356
Any clues on what this might be? I’ve had it for 30 years without knowing. I assumed it was 531 as it rides beautifully, but it has a 27.0 seat tube which is a bit odd. It has Campag ends, and the BB shell might be a giveaway to those who know more than me, as might the frame number. Cheers.
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• #6357
A resprayed high-end 1980 Raleigh. Not sure what model- Team Replica maybe? W for Worksop, 0 for 1980 and if you search the number the K should give the month.
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• #6358
Dropouts are Campagnolo for their short lived Portacatena system.
Deets here: https://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2014/08/campagnolo-portacatena-neat-idea-whose.html?m=1
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• #6359
1980 Carlton Pro would be my guess. The rear brake bridge will have diamond shapes on the seat stays. The Raleigh frames had mostly gone under bb guides by then and the flat fork crown is very Carlton.
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• #6360
I was told some time back it was a Raleigh, but a couple of features didn’t seem right - the eyes on the seat stays and the slotted bb shell. I don’t know enough about that though. The original colour seems to have been white, as there’s still some around the dropouts and BB.
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• #6361
Thanks for that, that’s really interesting! I’ve never heard of it before, and I always wondered what the holes could be for. Cheers!
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• #6362
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• #6363
I think you may well be right. The original colour seems to have been a pearl white, which seems to tie in with the Pro, no? And here’s the brake bridge.
My only issue is that it originally had three top tube cable guides for full length outer housing (which had been damaged and I had removed by Helmut at Sonic Cycles ☹️) and the only Carlton’s I’ve seen had stops at either end.
Where’s the best place to investigate the serial number further?
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• #6365
clever stuff! Never heard about it before! Thanks!
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• #6366
Also very convenient when you fakie down a set of stairs and don’t want to pedal backwards ;)
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• #6367
Looks for all the world like a pro to me, is the original colour silver Lustre.
The number is W for Worksop, K for the month and the 0 for 1980.
The remainder is a unique number so Raleigh bean counters could sleep at night. Not possible to tie a number to a specific model.
The hollow in the stays at the dropout were a Raleigh Pro / Carlton Pro / SBDU thing.
Trying to think back, not sure the 80's carlton Pro had any top tube guides at all (band on cable guides) and may have had nutted brakes. Maybe it has had a bit of work done? I used to have a memory lol.
As an aside the Carlton Pro was the best bang per buck frame around. Light enough and geometry good enough for road, TT, general riding, down hill and up. Was ridden to a UK road race championship.
Loved them, I've got 2 in the shed :)
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• #6368
This is why I <3 this thread!
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• #6369
That sums it up perfectly, many thanks.
I bought it back in the 90’s as a commute fixie when I used to ride from Sudbury Hill to Vauxhall each day (down the A40, under the Hanger Lane underpass, I must have been bloody mad) and it’s served me well ever since, but since I’m now old and live near Crystal Palace it’s a struggle to get it up and down the hill twice a day so I’ve not ridden in in ages. I chanced it on Tuesday rode it to work and back and completely buggered my thighs up in time for a week in Menorca. Arses. Sadly I’ll be clearing my collection out next year as we’re emigrating to Aus, so hopefully it’ll find a good home.
Anyway, thanks a lot everyone for the info, it’s much appreciated. Cheers!
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• #6370
Hi guys,
Been thinking to strip this down to sell the parts. There seems to be so many different versions of the Campagnolo bits that I'm not sure where to start. Any idea on how to specifically identify the model of each of these components? Cheers. https://imgur.com/a/50t5UeA?s=sms
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• #6371
In most cases the answer is written on them! 10 speed Record chainset and levers, Veloce rear mech, all 1990s. The qrs are a pattern used since the 80s, the hubs and brakes should have an identifier on them, post a picture if they haven't.
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• #6372
Cheers Colin, I of course noticed the overall model name, but after a few searches it didn't seem precise as there were slight differences between parts as well as year released etc. Wondered if there was a way to narrow it down to specifics.
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• #6373
https://velobase.com/ Is your best bet
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• #6374
Amazing, thanks.
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• #6375
Can anyone help me ID this hub please? It’s on my brother’s bike pretty sure it’s a 9s campag something but can’t find one with the black end caps that matches
Mostly interested in whether it has sealed or loose bearings as it’s a bit scratchy and I will rebuild if possible
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Those are Nervex lugs if it can help for your search...