Lightweight tent recommendations?

It's been ages since I researched this. Maybe I read about hot bonding but forgot all about it. I think there are 1 or 2 people who've made their own tents out of DCF and published the details. IIRC they were stupidly light. But the fabric is so costly and can be out of stock everywhere for months.....it would be a real bummer to mess it up. If you had to buy the fabric twice it might be cheaper to just buy a Big Agnes one.

Something you would very easily be able to do is a MYOG tarp out of DCF https://www.reddit.com/r/myog/comments/yc5h33/myog_dcf_9x8x6_tarp_with_linelocs_and_guylines/

You'd want this instead of DCF repair tape though: https://ripstopbytheroll.com/products/dyneema-composite-fabric-double-sided-adhesive-tape?variant=43872866435242

That would be good practice. But I'm not sure I'd ever use it. If I made a DCF tent it would be part of a weightweenie challenge, so packing anything I don't use would be a bit meh.

You'd want this instead of DCF repair tape

That's the stuff! I couldn't find it on the site.

Now that we know it's possible, is anyone in the thread interested in doing it? Probably not, because I'm the only one in the forum with an extreme weightweenie obsession. There are plenty of others at the weightweenie forum, but they don't attempt ultralight touring. They have a touring forum with no bikes in it. When I finish mine it will be the first. There's a legendary ultralight tourer with his own site, but he's a hard case who uses a scrap of bubble wrap instead of a Thermarest mat. I want to wallow in luxury, so I'd copy the Thermarest camp bed but use DCF and carbon. The camp bed would convert into a chair.

Okay, now you really are wrong. There are definitely ultralighters here. I just sold a perfectly good lightweight tent after one single use because it was too heavy.

Great, so someone needs to do it. Nobody wants to pay Big Agnes' prices. Have a 227g tent for sensible money. https://www.reddit.com/r/myog/comments/sh0akq/227g_8oz_the_dcf_tent_the_plex_solo_could_have/

too heavy.

g?

1100 for a full sized two person tent with a 50" floor. Sold it and bought a Slingfin Splitwing which can be as light as 224g when no bug pressure or as heavy as 595g with full bug and weather protection. https://www.slingfin.com/products/splitwing-bundle

Very neat. Mine would have to be self-supporting so I can wild camp on concrete etc. And I hate stakes and guylines. I would probably copy my existing tent.

It's about 900g I think. Supposedly designed for 4 people to share when adventure racing. But it's nice for 1 person. You can put your bike in if you take the wheels off. Much of the weight is zips. It's got 4 long ones. Maybe I'd use velcro instead of zips. It wouldn't be actual velcro, it would be the stuff which sticks to itself. It doesn't have hooks on one piece and loops on the other.

https://ripstopbytheroll.com/collections/velcro-elastic/products/omni-tape

I see cross-over with the world of ultracycling for weight weenie touring. It's nothing new or novel for them to survive multiple weeks, multiple conditions with very minimal packing. Something adapted from their philosophy would be probably way lighter than a tent from fancy materials on a classic 'touring' set up. Bubble wrap guy started from the point of trying to go further easier or something didn't he? Kind of the same principle.

Stay in hotels. My credit card is lighter than any of your tents ;)

hippyisalwaysright.com

Something adapted from their philosophy would be probably way lighter

I suppose they use a bivvy bag? And maybe a half length mat? Not for me. If I can have a tent and a bed for a 250g penalty, why not?

Bubble wrap guy is here http://www2.arnes.si/~ikovse/weight1.htm

I also like to carry street clothes and shoes, and cooking gear. But I don't want to derail the thread by getting into all of that.

Yeah, I guess re-reading my comment came across as negative which I didn't intend at all. To me touring is enjoying the travel and super minimal/light means sacrifice of enjoyment on some level. In theory it is an interesting concept though as that guy's site proves.

I’m going to need a new, 1 man tent for hiking and wild camping in August UK. I have a tarp but don’t use trecking poles so have found it pretty useless in the past. My budget is non existent so I was going to start with Decathlon. I do want something light/small as I’ll use this tent on the bike and have larger tents already.

Any thoughts or insights? Anywhere other than Decathlon with a good option?

Are you still open to using a tarp tho? If you are, substitute poles will be cheaper and better than buying a heavy tent from Decathlon.

https://ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/tent-poles/

https://www.bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/product/custom-length-carbon-poles/

£60, but 2kg, looked ok in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP-z4ECnQU4

why would you put your bike in a tent?
why would you wild camp on concrete?
why does it matter if your tent weighs 300g vs. 500g?
so many questions

@miro_o fwiw my partner spent a couple nights in one of these and says it is ace for the money.

I also like to carry street clothes and shoes,

This raises the most flags for me when you claim to be a weight weenie/ultralighter @nick_h.

Bike inside tent to stop it being stolen.

Low weight can only be achieved by saving grams on multiple items. If you save 200g on a tent and save 200g on 4 more things, you've saved a kilo. Keep doing this on all your stuff and you save 4kg on the bike and maybe the same again on your gear. See the link i posted about the bubble wrap guy. If you don't save weight on a touring setup you can end up adding even more weight because you need heavy duty hubs and rims and a triple crankset to get over the Alps. . There are lots of tourers who buy everything at high Street shops and end up with an 80 lb rig. Which is very limiting.

Wild camping is useful in towns and cities or maybe in bad weather when you shelter under some sort of structure. Parks and sports grounds often have roofed structures, often with power, water and WiFi.

I normally just tie my bike to the tent.

I don't race and part of the reason for touring is mingling with the locals. You need party clothes to go to bars. Saving weight on street clothes is yet another interesting challenge. A buttoned shirt is 250g. Not much you can do about that. You could make a featherlight one from DCF but it would be the same as wearing a bin bag. Travel trousers are very light. Trainers can be 270g per pair. My cycling shoes are v light, so total shoe weight is as low as 1 pair of touring shoes. And I'd hate to wear the same shoes in the evening that I wore on the bike. The sweat and the stink...

What about wearing cycle appropriate Street clothes on the bike? That's my normal strategy, hiking shirts etc?