EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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  • You passed the citizenship exam?

    Toughie

  • Tx!

    There was a question about Northern Irish £ Bank notes which amused me 😁

    Very much..."oh we colonized lots of places but they are happy now and that thing in Northern Ireland and the great hunger were just small things"...

    The officer was very welcoming and seemed genuinely happy with all of us joining the UK club which was quite wholesome.

  • Welcome to the club. The club that has a £5k cover charge and provides exactly the same shit as staying on the street that its exclusive door faces...

  • That's all true.

    With the home office being shitty, and staying shitty, it's for safety reasons as well.

    We are all in the same shit when it comes to inflation, climate crisis, housing,NHS....citizenship has no bearing on that, improve the UK only comes from doing.

    Trying my bit there but of course action doesn't require a piece of paper :)

  • https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jul/08/tory-brexiter-george-eustice-visas-young-eu-workers-labour-shortage?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

    🙄

    It's all about rekindling relationships, but it's a two year visa, under 35 and no family allowed in.

    I don't know how attractive that really is, I guess it's good for seasonal agricultural work maybe?

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  • My visa was $240, five years, renewable and I can bring in my entire (albeit notional) family.

  • To the UK on that visa schema?

    Many schemas mean NHS surcharges etc. on top. Even for shortage occupation roles.

    But some special "high skilled" visa schemes are far less restrictive/cheaper.

  • https://www.ft.com/content/d0673acb-eb87-4548-b90f-009be5ab14c3

    Food checks delayed again because the government doesn't want to cause more food inflation before the election (last 3 words are my reading of it).

  • And then the next government will have the same dilemma: Stick to the legal agreements and have more food price inflation (though there is some wiggle room by asking nicely, such as a vet agreement, maybe standards alignment is on the cards still...) and increase prices and get the blame OR
    Keep delaying, leave businesses with no idea what is happening, meaning these leave, still have the problem that the custom checks are such a vague mess many importers just skip GB etc etc.

    Labour (assuming they get in) will have to play this really smart. And then it's all no unicorns, just a knackered old horse Brexit.

    Of course the fecking DUP is wasting any opportunities in the "most exciting economic zone" of NI.

  • https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jul/30/exploitation-of-care-workers-in-england-is-appalling-says-government-adviser

    And this was warned about well before Brexit. But it was the fault of the EU immigrants for lowering wages or something.

    "He said the failure to tackle chronically low wages suggested the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) had “no interest” in improving the lives of care workers."

    I don't know if it is lack of interest or they simply gave up as the Tories have refused to fund the sector for so long?

    Bell suggested ministers could follow the lead of the Scottish and Welsh governments, both of which have made a commitment to raise pay for social care above the minimum wage – and fund the sector accordingly.

    “More money has to go into local authorities and that has to come from central government: that’s just a choice we have to make.”

    Fair play to him for speaking out.

  • They have also scrapped the UK equivalent of the CE mark, this is almost like someone didn't think this through properly.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66375185

  • this was something I used to deal with internally for my previous firm. I fucking knew the UK mark just wasn't viable and unnecessary. Everything is pretty much made to EU or International standards anyway and a UK mark was just ego.

  • My turd in your mouth would have tasted sweeter.

  • So May 'wanted to deliver a Brexit that recognised the concerns of the 48%' did she?

    I don't remember feeling especially recognised when she was dismissing my rent-struggling self as a 'metropolitan liberal elite' and a 'citizen of nowhere', or tacitly approving reprehensible headlines like 'enemies of the people' or 'crush the saboteurs'.

    Her Brexit was a gnat's wing less extreme than the one Johnson ended up with, and it's about the same as the one Sunak has made happen. But all of them were hard Brexit and none of them recognised our concerns with losing our MEPs, Single Market, Freedom of Movement, and Customs Union membership.

  • Exactly, it just look so much better than Alex despite only being marginally less worst,

  • As soon as she set out her red lines she essentially put party before country and that meant "ignore the concerns of the 48%". Revisionism

  • Exactly. Her 'red lines' meant a hard Brexit was the only possible outcome under the Conservatives.

  • I know, but she was the elected politician, he was a political appointee, therefore she should be held accountable for it.

  • The people of West Suffolk can, of course, make their own decision on Timothy at the next election.

  • Remainers didn't block her deal, Brexiters did.

    The whole of the UK would have had what NI has, which is less shit.

    But she really never had a clue about the remainers wishes or how to play the political game.

    It's clear she was blocked but she also blocked compromises on rights of Brits already resident in mainland Europe, she still hasn't a clue.

  • Sounds like an unelected bureaucrat :p

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