The fall of the Tory party

In an obvious precursor to the partygate committee findings, Margaret Ferrier (MP who travelled to Scotland by train having tested +ve during peak Covid) has been sanctioned with a 30 day suspension, probably triggering a by-election.
However the tories on the committee (same ones as in Johnson's case) tried to limit it to 9 days so as not to trigger a recall and by-election. They have a majority on the partygate committee so expect 9 days to be the sanction and the greased pig survives for another year or so.

Yeah the FT was reporting this the day after the Johnson evidence and the FT aren't know for reporting shit in the same way the mail etc do.

It'll be just as funny watching how that goes down, its likely to add to the tory in fighting.

She should have been sacked anyway but they couldn't get rid of her because she was voted by the people. So she's just sitting coining a wage till she's bumped.

I do agree that there is massive double standards there and they are tailoring it to suit themselves.

Don’t you think that banning it will cause even more side effects, as unscrupulous dealers mix whatever they can with it to increase their margins?

Sorry for very slow reply but I'm not in favour of banning it - as @dicki said the independent advisers recommended against and I think you're right and driving it underground is a bad idea.

But education around the risks is badly needed. I work in the PR team for a large east London university and we've had doctors in the large well known teaching hospital attached to it coming to us to get help getting the word out because they're so worried about the health risks.

They maybe just want to crack down on the sale of huge catering dispensers, that seems to be what people get into trouble and addictive behaviour with, not the odd silver canister shared in balloons

I genuinely think that if there weren’t little silver canisters basically everywhere, this would have stayed under the radar and wouldn’t be happening. I have no issue with people doing it but do think the littering is pretty awful

NO is fucking awful. It shows what happens when the good drugs are illegal. People turn to shitty ones. As @EB said, it's gone from silver canisters to fucking huge zeppelin filling packs marketed for "balloon filling". The catering packs of silver canisters are mad, the huge balloon filling canisters are even madder.

Vaping is further proof of the "hey, who thought burning and inhaling stuff would be bad for us?".

I didn't know that, thanks. Makes me wonder why the NHS doles it out to pregnant mothers so readily though.

The pierced small canisters are eminently recyclable. Put £1 deposit on them, and make the distributors who supply them to retail outlets responsible for collecting cashed in canisters and consigning them to a registered recycler.
With a value of £1 each, you'll never see another used canister in the gutter or littering a park.

Interesting that one year out from am election we can now hold off on extending the retirement age

This has always been a long time bug bear of our current system. When ecstacy is lumped in with crack people ignore the risks.

I genuinely had no idea how dangerous amphetamines were until my 20s just because you feel they're around the ecstacy level of bad, probably a bit less.

That's NO + air = Entonox and only good for short term use; even hospitals are trying to use less because of risks to clinical staff of long term exposure in poorly ventilated old hospitals.

Actually, I remember getting Entonox in the ambulance after breaking my arm skateboarding in about 1991 and I was off my fucking nut.

ms_com just kept saying "this is like being lean in Brockwell park" over and over in Kings' maternity ward.

When we were in for our first, a mum to be from a couple of beds over went for a shower and her partner got going on the gas and air in her absence. By the time she came back he was a giggling wreck and had munched half her labour snacks. Occasionally I'm reminded of this and wonder how they're getting on with parenthood.

It's good when regulated and breathed kinda normally, like in hospital, nice instant pain killer and lulz. Smashed into the depths of your lungs at high pressure whilst driving a loud Audi is a bit different, even balloons at parties seem to involve a lot of asphyxiation. I've had worse stuff but also much better and the littering is so irritating.

My youngest had some when they were setting her broken wrist. She was off her nut too.

lean

Been a while since I heard that phrase.

#donotlean

My sister had a load of Entonox when she broke her arm. Apparently is was rubbish compared to the pethidine they gave her next.

The only time I have seen it being used by the driver of a car, at 7.30 am on Old Kent Road, it was a white Audi.

Pfft, have you guys ever had morphine?! I can see why people like heroin so much

More Entonox flashbacks; everybody sounded like the adults in the Snoopy/Peanuts cartoons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04

Pfft, have you guys ever had morphine?! I can see why people like heroin so much

Had it when I had kidney stones, it was the only pain relief that touched the sides.

Fuck yes, I had it in hospital once and was tripping so much I thought I was in a tent camping.

My wife had a similar experience when she took it in hospital, she thought there was a well behaved small child opposite. She commented how well behaved it was and they hadn't moved for ages - it was a plastic bag.