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There are a lot of families where parents work but they still don't have enough money to cover food. Hence the school meals and other help.

If work doesn't pay I don't see that as a failing on behalf of the parents.

Of course the solution should be that work pays and benefits are enough to cover basic needs, but that is not the situation right now. So you end up with people wanting to help and offering meals, used clothing...whatever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q8xM8-XkRA

I get that, but I'm a teacher, I got into the job because I believe in the worth of academic learning and the ability to lay down same basics of civilisation. But not the basics of food and shelter, that's someone else's problem.

Maths until 18?
Silly idea from a privileged tory toff

Why?

Because the elephant in the room is private school; they need to be scrapped.

Private schools don't need to be scrapped. There will always be a place for peolple who want to pay for education. The old boys / girls network fast track is one thing that needs fixing. But the main thing is funding normal schools and rewarding teachers for the job they do.

The test of a good public service is people that can afford to buy a private version don't. If state schools were made good most private schools would close due to lack of pupils.
/utopia

Private schools don't need to be scrapped.

I don’t think MPs and public ‘decision makers’ should be allowed to send their children to them. Until there’s more equality anyway.

State schools would get better a lot quicker if they were though.

This is very much a thing elsewhere in the world.

Norway for example.

Source please

Common sense innit, big cunts wouldn't be able to send their little cunts to cunt training at the cunt factories so all the cunt money and cunt effort would go to making state schools better for their cunts and therefore, everyone else they're stuck with too.

But the main thing is funding normal schools and rewarding teachers for the job they do.

By scrapping private school.

Finland.

If state schools were made good most private schools would close due to lack of pupils.

When the NHS was founded, a lots of charity hospitals either closed down or been converted into an NHS hospital.

Same deal.

On the appointed day, 1,143 voluntary hospitals with some 90,000 beds and 1,545 municipal hospitals with about 390,000 beds were taken over by the NHS in England and Wales.

Maybe but IMO there will always be someone who wants to pay for education. I totally agree that the system isn't right atm and would rather state run schools be on a level with private ones. And that they were not so many of the private schools

I don't understand why banning them makes funding state schools easier.

the main thing is funding normal schools and rewarding teachers for the job they do.

1000s of teachers shortage in Victoria, Straya because they've underfunded and treated teachers like shite for years. Private schools get government funding though. Fuck that shit. See also religions or religious schools getting tax breaks.

That’s a country, not a source

You’re right, they’re not childcare but that doesn’t mean that I don’t care for the kids at school. I want them to leave as the best version of themselves that they can be. If I show them care and compassion that they may not get anywhere else as well as try to impart some wisdom and the box ticking knowledge required of the sats I reckon I’m part of the way there.

Ok.

I don't understand why banning them makes funding state schools easier.

Because there will be privileges people realising that their state schools is underfunded and will end up investing in it than the private school.

In the UK, seven per cent of secondary school children are privately educated. In 2019, tuition fees cost an average of £18,000 per year for day students or £35,000 for boarders. In the same year, the median household income in the UK was £28,400.

Interrogating the role of private schools in Britain is important because we live in a country where the majority of leaders in politics, business and in the arts were privately educated.”

How about removing the charitable status and tax advantages?

Or yeah just ban them, they are there to create a buffer against social mobility and to prevent a meritocracy breaking out

I'm with you on banning them, mainly for the reasons you've listed.

I've met literally hundreds of people who went to fee paying schools and almost without fail, they are cunts, full of self-entitlement and privilege, many of whom are in positions of power and responsibility now because of who they know, not their own merits.

Yeah take away the tax and charitable stuff.
@edscoble If that would happen then maybe banning would work.

I think we all agree that state schools need to be helped and teachers paid well for the work.