The fall of the Tory party

I wonder how the various forumengers who voted leave feel about things now?

They left.

expresso isn’t wrong, it’s just not the commonly used English word.

Does any undecided voter out there think: "Well, I was considering voting Labour, but some people on Twitter call the leader 'Keith', so perhaps I won't bother?"

The bacon sandwich thing seems to have done in for Ed Miliband, so yes, voters are swayed by stupid shit in the media.

Yeah, I reckon there's a bit of a difference between shitposters on Twitter and the front pages of the most popular national tabloids, but I take your point. I just don't reckon the Keith shit will be what does for Starmer, if indeed anything does for him.

'Espresso' FFS, see Coffee something forum on here

I put espresso/expresso firmly in the Kier/Keith camp.

I made a rosette, also printed some evil Tory faces on a shirt, blue tie, act like a cunt, costume complete.

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I know this thread moves fast but the people I've heard loads of people say "Magic Grandpa" irl and all are older, none are centerist dads, lots are small c-conservative, and lots have been DM readers.

I've searched stonehedge's posts for Magic Grandpa, and returned no hits. /dropsmic

I've searched stonehedge's posts for Magic Grandpa, and returned no hits. /dropsmic

Lol. Kind of offended that anybody could think I am a small c conservative. I was raised about as left wing as you can get! If my my Mum saw what you just wrote she'd be horrified!

Fun fact: The only reason I was born in the UK and not in Austria is because my great grandfather and grandfather were both exiled for their left wing activism. My family weren't even allowed into the USA until the mid nineties!

Abortion should be legal until the child reaches 15. Change my mind.

He's going to come under a shitload more scrutiny in the run up to an election due to issues largely of his (and his faction's) own making

Surely he will come under scrutiny because

1 - there will be an election in the offing, People will then have some engagement with politics.
2 - the Tory press will go after him because there's an election in the offing.

Nothing to do with any issues of his own making, real or imagined.

Well, yes. And the scrutiny is highly unlikely (read: almost certainly not) going to focus on people on Twitter calling him Keith, is it?

It's going to be focusing on the things he has or hasn't done. Real.

CMV: Centrist dad is used by people with the same mentality as those that use woke as a slur, different world view, same mindset

Sure. But as LoHMO he won't have actually DONE anything will he?
He's is doing an ok job at calling out the government. Keeping some sort of loose party unity and announcing the occasional costed option to use as part of the holding government to account.

Is he perfect, no, neither was Corbyn and they can't bash starmer with the same communist, anti UK, bullshit which parts of the country lapped up and were sold on.

My hope the tories struggle with an attack line that sticks. There's something to be said for boring!

Happy Friday all

Using the drum beat from Gary Glitter's Rock and Roll Part 2*, some kind of Tory in-joke?

https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1585921170595094530?s=20&t=2CEsriA8CgLhUvu8M3Kuhg

*Song will always remind of Happy Gilmore.

Hey guys, has anyone noticed that the Tories are a bunch of cunts?

I was raised about as left wing as you can get! If my my Mum saw what you just wrote she'd be horrified!

Alright Lizz calm down.

Although, she might have been a true radical all along, just playing the long game from within.

https://www.rollingstone.co.uk/politics/features/liz-truss-secret-left-wing-revolutionary-24110/

Came here to say this thread is probably not the right place for Keith discussion and absolutely the place to call the Tories out for being cunts, so I'm more than happy to park it and stick to the thread instead.

https://youtu.be/PQpsVGYqdPA

Sorry I meant I think of you as peak centrist-dad, not conservative.

And obviously in a joking-reclaim-the-word-way.

Alright Lizz calm down.

Although, she might have been a true radical all along, just playing the long game from within.

Wandered past her local on the way to buy a bag of chips earlier..was half expecting to see Kwarteng and Truss pissed at the bar.

Sorry I meant I think of you as peak centrist-dad.

Genuinely amazed that is what I give off online tbh. I really think any effort at nuance on the internet falls on death ears.

Edit: Aaaaah...I know why. Its because I grumble about the left of the Labour party being in sabotage mode and think Starmer is doing a reasonable job at maximising the chances of winning the next election. That does not make me a centerist. That makes me an observationist. It does not represent my own political beliefs.

That makes me an observationist

Doesn't everyone think that?
"I make rational decisions based on logical inference from evidence; YOU are ideological / tribal / in hock to the Party"

Facts don't car about your feelings sweetheart. Etc.

/s

Possibly. Was just a bit rattled by being called a centerist when I consider myself to be a democratic socialist so pretty left wing in my own eyes. I used to be an SWP member ffs!

Anyway, not that it matters.