Owning your own home

I dunno... I'd kind of like a cubicle / office. I've only ever had an office once, at my very first job, and it was kind of cool

Does it have a washable filter on the inlet? Mine does with a wire running from the dishwasher so I assume it has a fancy sensor to find a blockage. Isolate remove and clean

Google image of filter

I've also got a load of these supports, but painted the shelves to match the wall. They are good, but getting that middle screw in is a PITA. Need a bendy screwdriver really, which I don't have.

yes it does and i have already cleaned it out :(

i have washed at highest temp but yeah maybe there is a cleaning mode i could put it on... will have a look

I think it's barely noticeable once you've got stuff on it. Calling it ugly would get you a fight in some quarters though. From a design efficiency point of view it's beautiful.

Love the colour.

This conversation started with a question about an office space in a home. I do disagree with your critique as well though.

Maybe some floating shelves would be less jarring. Or black twinslot rather than white. And not using pine etc.

From a design efficiency point of view it's beautiful.

These are deep waters, Watson.

I would be intrigued to know how many of those that install these systems actually use the modular functionality in practice. If you never intend to change the configuration of your shelving it's hardly an efficient design to look at loads of unused track.

Besides, even for a modular system, in an alcove setting I don't understand why you wouldn't want the supports on the walls parallel to the viewer (rather than perpendicular). Not beyond the wit of man to make shelves strong enough to be supported that way.

it's hardly an efficient design to look at loads of unused track.

You can trim the track away if you don't want it. It's very handy for making sure everything is bang on straight and uniform though. It makes installing it a doddle. It braces the weight of the heavier items across the full length of the track. And so it really forms part of the aesthetic [function -> form, not the other way round). So you don't see many folks doing this (or buying the micro short lengths of track) to do what you suggest.

in an alcove setting I don't understand why you wouldn't want the supports on the walls parallel to the viewer

Wouldn't that mean the shelf width would have to match the width of the alcove (so everyone would need custom width shelving?)

As above, if you don't like seeing the track, just cut the excess / unused track away, assuming the substrate is strong enough to support the weight. Probably wouldn't do it on drywall, but if going to into brick it's possible.

Wouldn't that mean the shelf width would have to match the width of the alcove (so everyone would need custom width shelving?)

I don't have experience with Vitsoe but presumably they can trim the shelf at the edges to match your alcove? Or does it sort of float in space?

The shelves and other units are all standard widths; 66 or 90cm.

I don't have experience with Vitsoe but presumably they can trim the shelf at the edges to match your alcove? Or does it sort of float in space?

You have a lot of opinions for someone so badly informed about the subject.

They are fixed size 'bays' 66 and 90cm roughly. The steel is folded in such a way that it enhances the strength of the shelves and reduces the weight. The aluminium track allows you to 'join' bays together and can support all the weight of hundreds of records on 2 stainless steel pins.

I could go on but it's a recognised design classic from a recognised designer it appears in many design collections/museums. There have been films made about the system and the designer and it's sold well and holds it value over time. So your comments about it's qualities which turn out to be spectacularly badly informed are barely worth the time it takes to read them!

Ooh now do G Plan

Will those changes exceed the £75 I put in it?

recognised design classic from a recognised designer it appears in many design collections/museums

I try not to outsource my tastes - if I think something is ugly I don't want it in my house!

You don't know enough about it for your opinion to be worth repeating IMHO. I was prepared to give your opinions some weight but you proved they're worthless because you don't understand how the system works which is a big part of its appeal and fundamental to the looks.

'try not to outsource my tastes' Fly in the face of informed opinion all you want mate. Expect a little friction though.

I don't know how this got so heated but I am genuinely interested in informing myself. For a random Victorian alcove that is a bit wonky and doesn't correspond with standard widths, is there a way to install Vitsoe that looks decent?

I'm not biting. There's a lot of info out there. I've no need to offer you a picture of an installation I like the look of just for you to dislike it. You can say you think it's ugly until you maybe change your mind.

I'm honestly not at all heated about it. Just surprised that you have anything to say about a design you know so little about.

That’s the most middle class fight I’ve seen on here.

Fair enough - tone is hard on the forum and I get why you would think I was baiting you. FWIW I wasn't trying to.

Thank you. You're welcome. The evening entertainment will be along soon.

Shall we change tack a bit and do Miele next?

I was fine about you not liking it but I do have a lot of it so obviously I'm very aware of the charm. I make furniture as well so I appreciate the design of it on a mechanical level.

I tend to assume that everyone knows a lot more about it than they do.