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I'd echo a lot of Nef's points, but overall it comes down to transparency. If someone tells you from the off that they add x% to what they source then you know.
I think this is unreasonable because capitalism, but it would be interesting to see this on every product in every shop and see how people felt about it.
It would be a totally unreasonable thing to ask, because you'd need to factor in all the other costs too. -
It does feel more natural for sundries to be included in the labour rate (as does fuel, transport, bookkeeping, etc.)
Doesn't work that way, some of the sundries (repaircare epoxy resin) are too expensive to include in the labour rate and it would mean the 1 hour jobs I do on the bike are also paying to run the van.
Another thing I've never done but will have to start doing is double the labour rate for the first hour. I can't do 8 hours of 1 hour jobs in a day if I'm going on the time I arrive on site.
Your final point, yes, a lot of people will be using materials they know and trust. Nothing worse than getting crappy materials that slow you down or mess your s**t up.
The bike shop analogy is fine.
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Just to throw my 2p in.
I'd echo a lot of Nef's points, but overall it comes down to transparency. If someone tells you from the off that they add x% to what they source then you know.
What I've totally lost in this popcorn is whether the drunk chap with the radiators only found this out when he got the bill or if it was upfront. Don't tell me - I don't care anymore.
It does feel more natural for sundries to be included in the labour rate (as does fuel, transport, bookkeeping, etc.) and materials you buy for the client to be charged at cost - with or without your trade discount.
The difference I guess with building vs a lot of other work is the variation in interaction - are they using adhesive they buy all the time and have a stock of for tiling a splashback, or are they collecting specific tiles? Is it a connection box they have 200 in the van or is it a spefic light fitting? The bike analogy only works if a trade literally has a 2nd business selling whatever they're fitting - like a boiler company selling you the boiler Inc installation.