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  • I'd like to think its the beginning of the end, but at best UKr will only be able to shift the Russians out of Kherson by the time the winter sets in, then it'll be 6 months of freezing stalemate whilst Russia digs in and catches up with training and equipment.

    It'll be much harder to boot them out the rest of the country in the spring, and they will be planning their own counter attacks as well. Long way to go I fear.

  • Why?

    Probably the bit that said about training and better equipment arriving over winter, thus making it harder to combat them.

    That's how I read it anyway.

  • Loss of momentum i guess plus russia will have a lot of time to reinforce their possitions.

    Right now they are in shambles it seems but russia is still a big country with a lot of recorces. I dont think one can just assume they will not train a lot of recruits well just because thats not happening this very minute. On the other hand ukraine will likely have even more modern weapons by spring (one would hope) and that could be difficult for the russians to overcome even with huge manpower and ”proper” training

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