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  • they look nice.

  • Anyone tracking hrv? My watch has started on this after an update, and is reporting I'm sub 50 which apparently is pretty bad. How accurate is it?

  • The answer is complex- but essentially the jury's out (though my last deep dive into this was late 2021- so if there's a new review paper I'd be interested to read it).

  • My Garmin's just started measuring this as well. I've no idea how it works but really need to read up on it.
    My watch is showing mine as being 40ms which it says is balanced. I've not got a clue if that's good or bad.

  • I used an app and iPhone camera to track it last year, it never really showed any major changes in hrv so gave up.

    Been feeling pretty rubbish this week and the new garmin feature has flagged v low variance Tuesday and yesterday, back to normal today, about to run so hoping to feel good again!

  • Interesting that Garmin regards HRV as "performance" rather than "health" in the app.

    My Garmin is too bulky to sleep with comfortably so I've never noticed that the option was there.

  • It’s only been about for ~3 weeks I think

  • Thanks all. Hopefully it is still just calibrating and I'm not on my way out.

  • Article: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2022/07/garmin-previews-hrv-status-on-the-fenix-6-series-watches.html

    Interestingly it suggests if behaviour not normal during calibration (I've been less active, now resuming) then it can screw it up.

    My graph so far is interesting.

    Daughter had covid last week, I had it fairly recently (end June?) but might be fighting it off despite -ve tests?


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  • These Nike's look interesting. What's the drop on them?

  • I've got a pair of endorphin trails but not that into them

    Want to sell?

  • Had a look at HRV on my apple watch. Not good for my stress levels!

  • My experience of Nike trails shoes is they look great, are really comfy and nice to run in until it rains. Then you're screwed as they have zero grip.

  • 4 mm drop zoom x and more aggressive tread than usual from Nike so look promising if durability is at least half decent which with Nike isn't guaranteed

  • Too small, sorry

  • I'm in two minds whether to keep or list them as they're not bad. They're comfy and have plenty of grip but expensive, hot, heavy, have annoyingly long laces and generally over built for an endorphin so i expected a lighter faster feeling shoe like an endorphin speed with grip and some reinforcement and they're certainly not that but for a winter high mileage training trail shoe they could come into their own as long as you change the laces as wet laces slapping you in the shins is really annoying. Saucony haven't made a bad shoe with these they just should have called it something else. I'll persevere with them but if anyone wants them for £60 they cost me £160 and have less than 100 dry miles in them and still look like new I'll let them go?

  • have annoyingly long laces

    I wish New Balance would ship out their shoes with 'annoyingly long laces' so I can use marathon knot easily (I realize the endorphin trails do not have that extra hole needed for this)..

  • As a side note, I bought.a pair of these in Burgundy, gold and mint green (lol) in February and wore them walking around snowy streets for a few weeks. Was pretty surprised how grippy they were in compacted and icy snow so I stopped wearing them casually and only use them for trails now. Really quite like them.

  • Yeah that's why I had to switch them tbe more sturdy upper just rubbed on my ankle ball bit.

    ..maybe the new Fresh Foam X More Trail V2 are more cushy 🙂

  • Does anyone have experience of Scott trail shoes?
    They look pretty well made and everywhere seems to be selling them at heavily discounted prices.

    @Stonehedge that's reassuring feedback. Thanks. I'm still undecided and scared to take them outside. Once they've been run in, there's no turning back.

  • I've stated it a lot recently, but I'll state it again. Sauconys latest run of trail shoes has been piss poor.
    Marketed as "slim lined", it would seem to me they've actually just cut corners and quality with their latest offers. Short as fuck laces. Cheap soles. Crap, flimsy uppers, and yet bumped the prices up £20/£30.
    'COST OF LIVING AFFECTS AMATEUR TRAIL RUNNERS!' would be the headline.
    I keep repeating myself because I've run in saucony since I started running and always end up back with them, so I'm really disappointed.

  • @Stonehedge that's reassuring feedback. Thanks. I'm still undecided and scared to take them outside. Once they've been run in, there's no turning back.

    We're the same size so if they don't work out for you, PM me and maybe I'll take them off your hands.

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