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Opening it in an incognito window also gets round the paywall.

TLDR: buy jumpers, firewood, candles, canned food and bottled gas to cook it with

(before prices increase from demand and inflation)

Corbyn had the whole of Glastonbury chanting his name, he had hugely influencial celebrities backing him but he still lost because of the right wing media attack.

No, he lost because he only had 20 something Glastonbury punters and celebrities on his side, not the actual electorate.

sigh

buy ... bottled gas to cook

This slightly scares me. Loads of camping setups are lethal in a less well ventilated space.

On a genuinely serious note I was thinking about buying candles now, before winter panic buying kicks in.

What are the forum recommended candles? Aesop? Rapha Black Oat & Alpine Herbs? Or is there a Novatec equivalent?

Are there any other things that people would pre-panic panic buy?

EU residency.

Iirc aftermarket UK passports used to be the 2nd most expensive after US. I wonder if that's changed now?

I'll trade anyone with EU passport mine

don't worry everyone boris has promised us a golden future

If they plan zoned blackouts now and give us notice, at least we can prepare.

Sounds like that's not what will happen and it's chaos potentially. Sigh...

Btw solar powered garden lights run for quite a while. If you don't fancy candles, there are solar hand held led lights too.

Is getting solar panels such a daft idea? My thinking is this at least pays for the days electric

Our predicted saving over 10yrs on last estimate was £51.

Except the day they get installed, it'll start raining non-stop til May 2023

We have some. But when we have a grid power cut they don’t work. We can’t have a house batter because we get the feed in tariff.

If you have solar panels and a house battery the capacity required to run your home is so great it is nowhere near cost effective. Also winter is when the power demand is greatest(chance of power outages is greatest) but your solar panels will be least useful.

20somethings aren't voters? To try and deny he had huge support is strange, he won the Labour leader vote twice by a lot and he doubled the size of the Labour Party membership.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-election-result-vote-share-increased-1945-clement-attlee-a7781706.html%3famp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/24/labour-leadership-jeremy-corbyn-wins-landslide-victory-party

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1369148118815408

Corbyn FFS. Let's talk about Nye Bevan

Whatever you think about Corbyn it’s interesting several of the “hard left radical” policies he put forward in 2017 and 2019 have now become accepted by mainstream politics and media.

Loo roll. Apparently there's a paper shortage in the UK at the moment.

he won the Labour leader vote twice by a lot and he doubled the size of the Labour Party membership.

Labour membership: 485,000
People aged 20-30: approx. 7 million
Total electorate: 47-49 million

The belief that support from the first two groups alone can with an election is partly why Labour lost the election.

And everyone who intends to vote for a party joins it as a member right. A doubling in a parties membership from across the country wouldn't be a barometer for wider support as a whole either.

Also, click the last link I put in the comment you replied to. It has an easy to understand graph helpfully with the Conservative party membership numbers too.

And everyone who intends to vote for a party joins it as a member right. A doubling in a parties membership from across the country wouldn't be a barometer for wider support as a whole either.

So you agree with me? Labour were complacent, relied on the sudden swell of support from a small subsection of the electorate, which didn't translate to votes from all age groups and backgrounds, then blamed the media. Conservative party membership is irrelevant to this.

Frankly I don't care that wasn't my original point.

Well it obviously wasn't looking at the last election.....

Edit. Probably a bit provocative but labour did get spanked at the last election.