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Bro, it’s 30 degrees
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some kind of stretchy jacket that will breathe, be wind/shower proof but not a full on hardshell
Shakedry jacket does almost all that better than anything else
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Albion insulated jacket (or even the ultra light one)? I'm not sure it meets the stretchy criteria but it is smartly tailored and meant as top layer not a standalone thing. I've not tested mine yet (it's 30 degrees bro) but it packs into a jersey pocket and I got very warm very quickly trying it on in the shop which was surprising as it seems "lightweight". The 3.0 doesn't have insulation on the arms so it's focusing warmth on the shoulders / chest. I got a 2.0 in the sale but seems they are gone now
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Assos Mille jacket - they’re available in different weights (mine is “Spring/Fall”). When it’s not deep winter, but cold, I combine it with varying thickness jerseys underneath depending on temperature.
Genuinely the best couple hundred quid I’ve spent, when it comes to cycling clothes. It’s barely off my back between October and April.
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Have you tried one of the Albion burners? Obviously not wind/ water proof but if you pair it with a good outer layer it makes an amazing difference to body temperature. I have raynauds so can struggle to keep my hands and feet warm. Using a burner to keep my core warm makes a massive difference in keeping the extremities comfortable.
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What do i want to wear over my brevet insulated jacket?
the issues i have are shoulders and knees which feel the cold and once get cold stay cold, if i layer up with bib longs and longs over the top i end up with too many layers and overheat my core, but think i have solved the lower half issue as i have some Pearl izumi wind/waterproof longs to go over some lighter weight sportful bibtights that don’t have much fabric over the middle. if it’s a bit warmer then decent bibtights do the job on their own.
The Brevet jacket works great over the shoulders and i can feel there is a layer of air doing it’s insulation thing. i have various windshells and a couple of heavier soft shells (castelli Mortirolo) but i want some kind of stretchy jacket that will breathe, be wind/shower proof but not a full on hardshell.
does such a thing exist? not a noisy rain thing that’s boil in the bag and not a long sleeve jersey as i have those too.
doesn’t have to be Rapha and if it’s in the sale even better.