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• #76302
Thanks for making me think. i think monarchical power is entirely embedded within both a british concept and a reality of the rule of law. extracting the monarchy from British legal and so-called democratic systems could easily be interpreted as being more significant change than simply 'a change in the law'. looking at it the other way, these same legal and democratic systems keep in place an institution of huge wealth and privilege and power, and is arguably designed to keep it in place. to get rid of the monarchy is to dismantle the british state, it would threaten the grip on power of so many of the most powerful people in the country.
I'm sorry if saying i was rebublican was annoying, i was using it as an example really, one that I have heard used as a test case for Prevent elsewhere, it isn't a badge I wear. -
• #76303
extracting the monarchy from British legal and so-called democratic systems could easily be interpreted as being more significant change than simply 'a change in the law'
I think we would all have said that about Britain's relationship with the EU in 2015, and indeed it was a point that the Remain camp correctly pointed out on many occasions.
To offer up a different thought experiment, to what extent do these proposed changes go beyond what is (technically) already on the statute book in relation to treason? I suspect not very far.
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• #76304
So, if someone in the pub talks, loudly and in graphic detail, about how they would like the royal family to be publicly massacred, could they be in trouble?
Asking for a friend.
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• #76305
So, if someone in the pub talks, loudly and in graphic detail, about how they would like the royal family to be publicly massacred, could they be in trouble?
Not to be boring but I think that's illegal / hate speech whoever the target is?
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• #76306
Hmm, depends if it counts as vilifying the UK
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• #76307
Oh, that's not good - my friend is always vilifying that shitpit.
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• #76308
You're screwed, submit yourself to your nearest Rishi.
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• #76309
lol
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• #76310
That's it I got my teas mixed up ✌️
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• #76311
I’m a stanch patriot.
ftfy
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• #76312
If someone starts ranting about how you or your family should be lynched would it be funny?
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• #76313
It would surely be the guillotine.
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• #76314
Can’t really say without hearing it - so much of humour depends on timing and delivery.
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• #76315
To those who know China...how would the people react if they were given freedom of expression, multi-party democracy and free and fair elections? It's so weird that 1.4 bn people in a modern economy are in the grip of old school authoritarianism
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• #76316
There is a theory I read that part of the reason for Russia descending into the most nasty aggressive form of capitalism is that under communist rule they were told how bad capitalism was and are almost living a parody version of it now.
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• #76317
"James Webb" picture turns out to be a slice of chorizo
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• #76318
Conditioning innit. It’s been that way for so long. To question it would go against everything they know.
If they had a revolution in China the number of people completely out ways those in power/police/military. But people are so scared they just wouldn’t.
All of this is my opinion. No facts here
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• #76319
It's so weird that 1.4 bn people in a modern economy are in the grip of old school authoritarianism
Francis Fukuyama was so, so wrong but that idea that Western liberal democracy is the apex of civilisation persists. Not a new way of thinking: Hegel thought the same thing about the society of the Austro-Hungarian empire. The Reaganite economic advisers who swarmed post-Gorbachev Russia thought the same and boy did they do a lot to help create the Russian kleptocracy.
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• #76320
Old news
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• #76321
Why is this an exclusive? Person fails to prepare for trip, sends own children on flight with a family member, then complains about being allowed to send their children on a flight with a family member, or something
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• #76322
Remoaners having a moan, innit.
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• #76324
Most important news story of the day, according to the Mail.
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• #76325
Annoying how they've both headed it as 'killer cyclists' online
Do they throw a good party?