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• #75527
Just my opinion, but she seems like the best of a terrible terrible cesspool of humanity.
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• #75528
surely part of a template to attack B&J under cultural-war-FINAL-V2.ppt
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• #75529
The current iteration of the Conservative Party is effectively UKIP, the acceptable face (to some) of the far right.
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• #75530
TBH, probably not FINAL probably more like culture-war-ROUGHDRAFT-DONOTSHARE.pptx
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• #75531
Where did you see this? I heard it a few days ago but not seen anything today.
Edit - found it!!
Let's hope it goes through.
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• #75532
The current iteration of the Conservative Party is effectively UKIP, the acceptable face (to some) of the far right.
I think that's fair, but the point I was making is that what seems "far right" to us today would have been thought of as "centre right" in the 80s. I think that holds across a broad range of issues from LGBTQ+ rights and free movement of labour to fiscal policy. While much maligned for illegal wars, Blair did a great deal to modernise attitudes in this country and shore up the tax/spend balance.
UKIP of course was made up of a lot of the old NF agitators with some media training to keep a lid on the hate speech (not always successfully).
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• #75533
Called it.
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• #75534
If the Tory party has any sense they'll do what Labour did to Corbyn and purge Johnson from the party. They will be able to find any number of serious rules he has broken.
I think it's more likely that (assuming he really does quit on September 5) he jacks in the MP job to do something more lucrative (Fox News?) to get himself out of his deep financial hole.
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• #75535
Fair enough and agree with the summary. For me, one of the cunts that at least believe in climate change, maybe don't want to cut all benefits and might not break the NIP would be the best outcome. Oh, and wasn't a major Johnson apologist. So Mordaunt > Tugenhat > Hunt > fuck the rest. But it truly is a choice of which of these turds would you prefer to eat.
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• #75536
I would have thought chancellor and home secretary? Suppose they can pick whatever they like at this stage.
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• #75537
he jacks in the MP job
I think he would be very lucky to retain his Uxbridge seat if he stood there in a future election.
I canvassed for the Labour candidate there (Ali Milani ) in 2019 and I can say that if anyone but Corbyn had been Labour leader Johnson's majority (7,000 approx.) would have been much smaller.
There's been quite a bit of water under the bridge since then!
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• #75538
Mordaunt
Mordaunt was the Economist's preferred choice last time around IIRC.
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• #75539
I would have thought chancellor and home secretary
Not sure. I thought that of the Big Four jobs Home Secretary was least favoured as you don't have the power that comes from holding the purse strings (Chancellor) or the ability to swan around waving flags and sounding hard while calling in air strikes (Foreign Secretary). Unless you have an unhealthy obsession with immigration like Priti Patel.
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• #75540
Called it
Haven't see it myself but apparently Braverman refused to rule out giving him a cabinet position in an interview a few days ago.
They have learned nothing.
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• #75541
Kemi has attacked the most popular and profitable ice cream brand in the UK Ben & Jerry's for prioritising social justice and not profits.
They have been doing that since they were founded, 2 years before she was born. It's not a new thing.
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• #75542
Johnson's record on active travel and the environment is much better than might have been expected. Easy to forget amid all the lies, corruption etc.
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• #75543
thought that of the Big Four jobs Home Secretary was least favoured
My impression is, while treasury might be more powerful and foreign office has more cachet, the home office gives proto-fascists and hardliners a really good platform to endear themselves to their base. There’s many more votes from police and home office personnel than there are from the FCDO.
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• #75544
Many turds have a piece of sweetcorn in it.
Theresa May's sweetcorn was her modern slavery legislation, which was the envy of the world. Its seen as the global gold standard.
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• #75545
They must be really annoying for Kemi; being ethical and making money are clearly mutually exclusive.
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• #75546
I thought he was talking about me
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• #75547
Johnson's record on active travel and the environment is much better than might have been expected. Easy to forget amid all the lies, corruption etc.
Let's not forget Johnson was elected as London mayor, twice. I bet many on here voted for him.
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• #75548
I bet many on here voted for him.
Just to be 100% clear, it is unacceptable to vote Conservative under any circumstances. They are cunts.
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• #75549
John Major is telling truths today: “What has been done in the last three years has damaged our country at home and overseas, and I think has damaged the reputation of parliament as well. The blame for these lapses must lie principally, but not only, with the prime minister. But many in his cabinet are culpable too and so are those outside the cabinet who cheered him on. They were silent when they should have spoken out and spoke out only when their silence became self damaging.” Earlier he said “the whole country” knew that the government had broken the law in a “litany” of ways: unlawfully trying to prorogue parliament, ignoring a nationwide lockdown by breaking its own laws in Downing Street and trying to change laws to “protect one of their own”.
Does this amount to a pitch for Mordaunt? She's the only front-runner who wasn't in Johnson's cabinet.
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• #75550
it is unacceptable to vote Conservative under any circumstances
I'd also like to point out that I was supporting Labour in the 2017 election, when many on here (including our dear leader) were advocating voting for the Lib Dems, who went on to get a total of 12 seats.
Kemi has attacked the most popular and profitable ice cream brand in the UK Ben & Jerry's for prioritising social justice and not profits.