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You can borrow mine if you like, I haven’t used it yet (got it off eBay). Surprisingly big. It’s held decently away from the bars for those of us with normal sized bars who like to use the tops. Detaches easily too.
I have used my outer shell bag a lot which I really do like and the size is more suitable for a day ride. If I were to do a 200km it’s be useful but I don’t see one of them anytime soon