Russian invasion of Ukraine

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  • Butina was the spy who was shagging one of the NRA leadership wasn't she?

    Edit: Not quite, but nurtured relationships with senior members and was then caught trying to establish a backchannel between the NRA and the Kremlin.

  • Russia has a real issue with an ageing population. Wouldn't one of the best ways to hurt Russia to make it easier for Russians to emigrate to the Western World? I'm thinking particularly younger and educated populations who are less likely to be brainwashed by Putin and friends.

    Hopefully a larger diaspora would increase the inflow of Western ideas back into Russia and further cripple the Russian state.

    Concerns would be that this would weaken any opposition forces in Russia and provide flow of revenues back to family in Russia propping up the state...

  • We now have two families living in our apartment in Budapest through refugee status.

    Amazingly one of the dads is WFH for a large comms company and they are footing all his bills* which the families think will be enough to keep them both in food for the foreseeable. Have no idea how this works out long term but felt the right thing to do.

    I honestly can not believe this is where we are in 2022.

    *We are obviously covering rent and electricity.

  • #rep

    Very generous and well done on making a difference!

  • Apparently not yet they don't, but they will in 10 years time.

    I read something really interesting on this last week which might have fed into Putin's timing for doing this.

    Essentially it said that Russia doesn't yet have an ageing population because male life expectancy used to be so low - something like 57 - that a generation of people didn't get old. But they have a boom of people aged 18-27 - ie military age - which will last for 10 years. Then they will have an aging population, and low birth rates of the last 10-20 years mean they will have a much smaller pool of potential conscripts to recruit.

  • Nice one @LePaton

  • Airbnb market died anyway ;)

    Its also a colleague and his neighbour of a family member which makes it slightly easier. Not that theres much thought needed in helping people having a connection settles any nerves when you are 1000s miles away.

  • they have a boom of people aged 18-27 - ie military age

    Hmm... looks like 23 year old male Russians are in very short supply. But you're right that their demographics are far from stable though.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia#/media/File:Russian_population_(demographic)_pyramid_(structure)_on_January,_1st,_2022.png

  • To be honest, if anything it looks like Ukraine might be even worse

    I know loads of young Ukrainians and virtually none of them live in Ukraine.

  • My limited understanding is Russia partially relies on immigration from central Asia/ further Soviet States to help fill it's demographic issues, as number is still the number one destination for many of those countries

  • That is great stuff.

    We norm ally use the flat for slight Arbnb revenue but this is a better use....

  • But I thought Diane Abbott and Jeremey Corbyn were on Putin's side? I don't know who to believe anymore.

  • In 50 years time, when people look back on this internet era, one of the observations will be that many people do not posess the critical thinking skills to understand that enouraging discourse to de-escalate is not the same as being on the "wrong side" or being an apologist for something terrible.

  • If anyone's first reaction is 'must be a deepfake', you might want to step back and take a breath, because that's bordering qanon-levels of conspiracy.
    Don't know why it /replied to you, sorry.

  • If anyone's first reaction is 'must be a deepfake', you might want to step back and take a breath, because that's bordering qanon-levels of conspiracy.

    No worries. I think to an extent you are right, but only if you actually dismiss it as a deep fake.

    Speaking personally, the reason I am suspicious of that video is because it expresses a view that contradicts Diane Abbott's previously expressed opinions on the subject.

  • In 50 years time, when the one true consciousness looks back on this internet era

  • For what its worth, I just found the original and can confirm that the Abbott video is real. That said, the versions doing the rounds on Twitter have been chopped up a fair bit. Don't have enough time to figure out if the cuts affect the meaning of what she says.

  • Yeah it does seem like some people have interpreted any call for de-escalation to mean "Ukraine should stop resisting".

    In Corbyn's piece there I didn't detect any desire for Ukraine to stand down. Instead the concern seems to be over direct action from NATO escalating the situation.

    In fact he makes a point that total occupation of Ukraine would be the worst outcome. But I suppose that's where the argument over how best to prevent that starts.

    (Eta that what I'm getting at is that it's hard to pick the nuance out of what's being said at the moment. I don't really have a position on whether NATO should be involved directly or not)

  • Can you share a link to the original?

  • No point in de-escalating now that the cat is out of the bag. Putler wanted war and has shown his army is useless. It will not be possible to live peacefully with a war criminal in power.

  • lmao journalists are off their heads


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  • Yeah I'd like to see that too. The previously shared version looked pretty weird.

    @Rox I was about to say "I'm not sure I agree that there's no point de-escalating" as I would hope that it is possible to live peacefully with a war criminal in power, but maybe that's naive.

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